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Dec 30, 2007 10:48
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Italiano term

Contratto di Mandato Senza Rappresentanza a Titolo Oneroso

Da Italiano a Inglese Affari/Finanza Legale: Contratti
Hope that was not too long ...
Cannot seem to find the correct way in English which does not sound like a horrible translation from Italian...
could it be the Xmas wine ???

Happy new year to you all

Jenny

Proposed translations

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28 min

undisclosed agency agreement for valuable consideration

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a contratto di mandato senza rappresentanza should correspond to an undisclosed agency agreement (see link below). A titolo oneroso basically means for payment, or 'for valuable consideration' to use the more correct legal term

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Note added at 30 mins (2007-12-30 11:18:21 GMT)
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you may want to replace 'for' with 'with' to avoid possible ambiguities
Peer comment(s):

neutral deborahmelie : an undisclosed agency agreement does not correspond to our" mandato senza rappresentanza"...happy new year :)
8 ore
thanks for the correction, Deborah. Happy New Year to you too
neutral James (Jim) Davis : I agree with Deborah, The rappresentanza is the power to act and sign in the name of seller or "mandante".
18 ore
Thanks for the observation, Jim
agree Richard Hall : undiscosed agency is absolutely correct. Well done Simon. Jim and Deborah might like to consult de Franchis ;-)...
687 giorni
cheers Richard, for probably the latest agree I've ever had!
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3 ore

contract of agency wihout representation (for valuable consideration)

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agency without representation?

Is it possible to make an agency agreement with no representation? I mean, having an ''agent'' act as a business promoter for another but not in the other person's name?
Michael E. Hendrickson, Attorney at Law
Re: agency without representation?

Why not, term this person a business promoter in the first place, instead of an agent, and the agreement a contract rather than an agency agreement, and draw the former, accordingly.
Note from asker:
Thanks all of you - Hope this answer is in the right place - I never know where I should add notes. I will briefly try to explain what this contract is supposed to cover. Company A (Principal) appoints Company B (Agent) to manage a telepass (motorway toll) service in a foreign country through the Service Provider - Company C. Co. A are appointing Co. B as his Agent .. but with no representation rights where he is paid commission for his services. I just wondered if there was a correct short form in English. Hope this is clearer ... and everyone enjoy New Year's Eve
Peer comment(s):

neutral simon tanner : although "contract of agency without representation" is not actually a recognised/used term as far as I am aware
41 min
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1 giorno 4 ore

mandate without representation for valuable consideration/mandate agreement with no representation

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"Mandate without representation" has 45 Google hits. I think you can skip 'contratto' if it is the title of the document.

If I were you and needed to specify it is an agreement, I would definitely opt for deborahmelie's solution.

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Note added at 1 day4 hrs (2007-12-31 15:43:25 GMT)
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or use 'mandate agreement with no representation', as I've suggested.
Note from asker:
Thank you all for your kind suggestions - When i asked the client they said they had used one before and the title had been REMUNERATED AGENCY CONTRACT WITH NO REPRESENTATION RIGHTS. That doesn't get google hits either .. but it seems to satisfy their needs .. I still wonder though if there is a 'correct' correspondence in English for this term. Thanks again
Peer comment(s):

neutral James (Jim) Davis : 45 Google hits is extremely low in terms of Google hits. For example "new agency contract" (also three words) gets 2000 hits. IMHO neither 45 nor 7 is sufficient for any consideration at all.
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Sure, 45 hits is very low, but it's all the same higher than 7, i.e. the number of Google hits for "agency without representation". I think what makes the difference in this question is 'senza rappresentanza', otherwise agency contract/agreement would fit
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