Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Italiano term or phrase:
uomo-simbolo (in context)
Inglese translation:
symbolic figure
Italiano term
uomo-simbolo
l`uomo-simbolo a cui tutto il mondo guarda mentre lo spettro della recessione allunga la sua ombra sul 2009
I understand the concept, just having trouble cranking up the brain to some lateral thinking this morning. Any ideas?
Thx
4 +1 | symbolic figure |
liz askew
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3 +4 | iconic figure |
Andrew Fanko
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3 +2 | figurehead |
polyglot45
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3 | a living symbol |
carly kelly
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Jan 28, 2009 09:24: liz askew changed "Edited KOG entry" from "<a href="/profile/560551">JRM (X)'s</a> old entry - "uomo-simbolo (in context)"" to ""symbolic figure""
Proposed translations
symbolic figure
Interpreting the President's Image in Crisis
By Joel Achenbach
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, June 19, 2004; Page C01
You're at a photo op, reading a book with schoolchildren and an aide suddenly whispers that a second plane has hit the World Trade Center. "America is under attack."
You're the president of the United States. What do you do?
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There have been other moments like this in American history, when the chief executive was suddenly plunged into a crisis, but they weren't caught on videotape. George W. Bush was on camera in an elementary school in Sarasota, Fla. He could see the pagers of reporters and photographers going off, one by one. He was on the spot like few people have ever been.
From two different angles, Americans have new glimpses of that historic moment. One comes from rabble-rousing Michael Moore, whose Bush-eviscerating film "Fahrenheit 9/11" premieres next week, and includes an uninterrupted seven-minute segment showing Bush's reaction after hearing the news of the attack. He doesn't move.
Instead he continues to sit in the classroom, listening to children read aloud. Moore lets the tape roll as the minutes pass painfully by.
And now from a second angle: The staff of the 9/11 Commission this week released a report that summarizes Bush's closed-door testimony about his thoughts as he sat there.
"The President told us his instinct was to project calm, not to have the country see an excited reaction at a moment of crisis . . . The President felt he should project strength and calm until he could better understand what was happening."
This moment will surely be used by the president's political opponents, and with equal fervor defended by his supporters. However it is interpreted, it points out a basic truth about any president: He's both an executive and a symbolic figure. He's the spiritual leader of the nation as well as the head of state. He's monarch and prime minister.
Sometimes he has to decide what role to take.
Presidential historian Robert Dallek of Boston University thinks Bush focused too much on appearances, rather than leaping into action.
"It speaks volumes about the preoccupation these politicians have about manipulating image," Dallek said yesterday. Bush should have immediately excused himself and started figuring out what was happening and what he could do. "The way to project calm and strength is to take care of business."
Douglas Brinkley, a presidential historian at the University of New Orleans, concurs: "I don't understand how one sits there. I just don't. Minutes are an eternity in that sort of situation. . . . A quick presidential decision may save lives."
Brinkley credits Bush with dusting himself off after a rough first day and regaining his composure. And he acknowledges that few presidents have had to endure such a Candid Camera moment. But Brinkley adds, "Character is not defined in good times, when you've been properly briefed, it's defined when you're in a desperate crisis situation."
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Thank you!
I thought I had gone into forbidden territory, as I don't do Italian:-)
My comments were all based on the English version and the Washington Post backed me up :-)
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Tom in London
: I didn't bother reading that long screed but I agree with "symbolic figure"
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Sure, I thought if I sent in a ref from the Washington Post, it would have some impact :-) I did not edit it enough!
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Barbara Toffolon (X)
: you may be right but he's not just a symbolic figure....he has more independent pull than you think....l'ultima parola e' la sua.
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Just read the Washington Post, this is only one of the descriptions of the ex-President :-) "executive, spiritual leader, head of state..."
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iconic figure
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liz askew
: Just a fraction, IMHO :-) Give him a bit more time and who knows?
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Tom in London
: "a cui tutto il mondo guarda " io no.
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Barbara Toffolon (X)
: Scusa la mia ignoranza liz, but what is IMHO???? For Tom: You don't have TV?
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wordgirl
: Just go to the US (I just got back from a visit home) and you will see just how true this really is! To down-shift a bit, perhaps try "already an iconic figure in his country" or some variation thereof...
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Thanks!
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Anca Petrescu
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Thank you!
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simon tanner
: it might be OTT, but that's because the text is! I think it's a pretty faithful translation
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Cheers, Simon.
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Krisztina Lelik
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Thanks, Krisztina.
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figurehead
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Barbara Toffolon (X)
: ho ho ho.... Messiah???? Careful how you speak of my new boss.... :)))))) Well I'm going to abstain until I see him either walk on water or increase my salary....
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I'm only stating a truth - do you work for the government then?
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James (Jim) Davis
: Was Jesus really as cool as he is? :)))
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Andrew Fanko
: To me, 'figurehead' implies someone without much executive power. As the context of this is the recession, the new President of the most powerful country in the world clearly has the power to change things!
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carly kelly
: agree with Andrew. Figurehead sounds good but I think it may mean a nominal figure, in a position of importance but lacking in any real power, like Queen Elizabeth I suppose.
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liz askew
: I agree with Andrew Fanko.//I don't follow at all ?
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revenge is a dish best eaten cold ????
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a living symbol
cheers!
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ig·ure·head (fgyr-hd)
n.
1. A carved figure on the prow of a ship.
2. A person given a position of nominal leadership but having no actual authority.
The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition copyright ©2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Updated in 2003. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.
figurehead
Noun
1. a person who is formally the head of a movement or an organization, but has no real authority
2. a carved bust on the bow of some sailing vessels
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