Jan 23, 2009 09:39
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lontana istanza di matrice stoica che concepisce tutti gli uomini

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Oltre al concetto di “animale politico” va riscoperta quella lontana istanza di matrice stoica che concepisce tutti gli uomini, e non soltanto quanti appartengono alla nostra stessa cultura o etnia, come accomunati da quelle caratteristiche fondamentali che consentono di riconoscersi come simili.

Sorry it's a bit long but I can't seem to get my head around it!

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the ancient argument of stoic origin that views all men...

la parola "istanza" ha diversi significati, forse qualcuno può suggerire delle alternative
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the ancient Stoic view, whereby all men are conceived...

think that should work
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NOW I understand what it's getting at! Thank you so much!
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agree blattanzi
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thanks!
neutral Fiorsam : si quasi, ma ignora le parole "istanza" e "matrice" che credo siano abbastanza importanto
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Thanks for the feedback. To clarify: for me, 'view' translates istanza. The difference between 'Stoic' and 'matrice stoica' is pretty irrelevant here, I feel
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the long-standing claim, Stoic in its origin(s), that all men share...

I'd rather use claim for istanza, I think

and yes, "stoica" and "di matrice stoica" are not the same thing: "di matrice stoica" implies not only that the "roots" ("origins") are in stoicism, but also that the "tree" has gone on developing and growing independently from stoicism, along the following historcal times, until today (that is what I tried to render with "long-standing")


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Note added at 8 hrs (2009-01-23 18:07:11 GMT)
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"stoic in his roots" si può dire? :)

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Note added at 9 hrs (2009-01-23 18:44:23 GMT)
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ops, its

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Note added at 9 hrs (2009-01-23 18:56:35 GMT)
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Matrice CO fig. (ideologica, culturale, ecc.) Sinonimi FO causa AU fonte, origine CO radice; AU ispirazione AD stampo CO ***ascendenza***
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