Anna ZANNELLA (asker) Dec 20, 2012:

Shabbelula Thank you.

Shabelula Dec 20, 2012:

pronunciarsi is usually used for High Courts or important Public Entities when they enounce their opinions and guidelines on certain matters - usually upon request. Enounce own feelings/guidelines/positions would seem a suitable translation, differing from "state own positions", because the body actually "enounce" something upon request as in a consultancy.

James (Jim) Davis Dec 20, 2012:

Anna it looks like rules for a rights issue. If they want to buy the shares they have to take up the offer within 60 days of receipt of the letter. You've given little context. Normally shareholders who do not want to take up an offer are not required to explicitly reject it, they just don't answer the letter. I think that it is implicit in the Italian here, that "voluntà" is "volontà di sottoscrivere". Normally in these phrases what you expect is, "... nel termine ..... a pena di inammissibilità".

Anna ZANNELLA (asker) Dec 20, 2012:

the opposite of *pronunciarsi e dichiarare* would be to anonymously state something or in this case anonymously make a decision formerly known ...

James (Jim) Davis Dec 20, 2012:

This is the first time I have seen it so I don't know if it is a standard term. Wait for Thomas (Tam) Roberts tomorrow morning, he will know if it is a standard term or not. The answer I have posted is how I would have translated it and I wouldn't have thought twice about it. Kudoz has a "glossary" policy, sometimes it is irritating. I have answered questions with references and long explanations, only to see that the question has disappeared because a rule has been broken (happened just the other day, mind the "term" was about 15 words long). That is life, that is Kudoz, but it doesn't happen often and next time, just post the one word and put the rest in the box below. I'm sure the benefits outweigh the irritations. And I'm sure everybody here would genuinely appreciate just a little "sorry".

Anna ZANNELLA (asker) Dec 20, 2012:

Jim I hope you are above you own question and do not need an answer. My question is legitimate one. I have no experience with 'pronunciarsi e dichiarare' as a legal term or action - they seem one and the same action or two actions comitted at once having nearly/or the same meaning. Pronunciarsi appears quite antiquated - at least this is the first time I am seeing it - and I am likening it to 'making an appearance or entry in Court'. The term appears tied to 'identification'. Dichiarare seems oratory in this case, except that this must be done in writing, but not as a "declaration". If this were a live General meeting it might be "stand up and speak/take (or be given the chair) and speak". Which would be why I asked it as one phrase. Ironically I think there is meaningful distinction between the two words in Italian (think of the minutes "Mr XX said...") but quite probably the need to specify the ID part under the circumstances is .... 'sotto inteso' and hence we are back to where I started with my question. *pronunciarsi e dichiarare*