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Open office compatible Trados/ Wordfast?
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David Turner
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Not directly, as far as I know. Déjà Vu DVX handles OpenOffice files very well. Nov 14, 2006

Along with some 25 other formats. You can import an almost unlimited number of OO files into a project and view, sort, filter and translate them as if they were only one file. You can also mix them seamlessly and transparently with MS Office files or other types in the SAME project, with the formatting hidden and only textual information on view.

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Unlimited? Nonsence Nov 14, 2006

djturner wrote:

You can import an almost unlimited number of OO files into a project


Did you really try that? I've imported just seven or so files of the total size under 20 Mb, and the resulting project size even before I tried to translate was 700 Mb or so. That's out of order! And what would be if I feeded 20 files (still far from unlimited)?

And once again, DejaVu X supports only OOo 1.x formats, not OOo 2.x, inspite of minor differences between them.


 
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I was admittedly sloppy with my comment Nov 15, 2006

on OmegaT and I'll definitely have a look at the latest - have not yet, though. There was something, anyhow, that kept me from using OmegaT some time in spring (doing my pro bono OpenOffice work), but I'd rather not expand on alternatives to avoid shooting myself again in the foot.

Appologies to the audience (and OmegaT;\) anyhow.

smo


 
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Comments on OmegaT welcome! Nov 15, 2006

Vitomir (Vito) Smolej wrote:
...but I'd rather not expand on alternatives to avoid shooting myself again in the foot.


You're welcome to give your impressions of OmegT. "We" are not always aware of the misconceptions about the product and what better way to find out than through peer review on a forum like this?


 
David Turner
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Unlimited, that is up to a project size of 2GB, as limited by Access Nov 16, 2006

esperantisto wrote:

djturner wrote:

You can import an almost unlimited number of OO files into a project


Did you really try that? I've imported just seven or so files of the total size under 20 Mb, and the resulting project size even before I tried to translate was 700 Mb or so. That's out of order! And what would be if I feeded 20 files (still far from unlimited)?

And once again, DejaVu X supports only OOo 1.x formats, not OOo 2.x, inspite of minor differences between them.



Well, I have had 250 HTML files in a project before and I've heard of people having more than a 1000. I did say *almost* unlimited. As far as I understand, there is no physical limit to the *number* of files in a project, up to the 2GB project size limit.

Projects can be quite large, but these days disk space is no big deal. DVX is optimized for speed rather size.
But 700 MB would be a very large project indeed! I don't think I've ever gone much beyond 250 MB even with large numbers of big files. t's true DejaVu X only support OOo 1.x files at the present time. But a new release is expected any time which will support even more formats including OOo 2.x.

You say the total size is under 20 MB, but have you tried converting them to RTF (as a lot of CAT programs need to do)?
Large amounts of graphics in Word files causes significant inflation during conversion to RTF format (20 MB may become several hundred MB). Microsoft fairly recently publicized a way to prevent such bloat in RTF files containing graphics. This requires care though as it involves changes to the Windows Registry, which may be dangerous if done incorrectly. http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;224663

You could also try compressing the graphics in the (Word 2002 upwards), especially photos and scanned images which often reduces Word file sizes by a factor of 5 or more.


[Edited at 2006-11-16 22:10]


 
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Free at last! Nov 24, 2006

... the general trend in TM software is away from integration with the word processor, and towards standalone products with a dedicated interface.

Marc


Indeed, thanks to SDL acquiring Trados. I'm about to order the latest version after patiently slaving away for years with older versions of Trados.

Once the new version is installed, I'll be using the SLDX-interface and installing Open Office on my pc for any other wordprocessing.

Free at last, I can't wait!

Next step would be SDL Trados for Linux. Last time I asked, they said they had no plans. Shame, I'd like to get rid of Windows completely

Huub


 
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Copy cat Nov 24, 2006

Marc [quote] ... the general trend in TM software is away from integration with the word processor, and towards standalone products with a dedicated interface.

Huub Stegeman [quote]:
Indeed, thanks to SDL acquiring Trados. I'm about to order the latest version after patiently slaving away for years with older versions of Trados.



Atril dropped the Word interface from Deja Vu ten years ago (Windows 95) when it became apparent that it imposed too many restrictions.

If you like the SDLX interface, I'd urge you to have a look at Deja Vu DVX. In my book, it has far more to offer, especially for the freelance translator.

David Turner

[Edited at 2006-11-24 16:20]


 
Emma R (X)
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Oo with Trados 7 on Windows XP Pro.. Jan 15, 2007

Hello,
Sorry it's an old topic but I need help,
Recently downloaded Trados 7 and have Open Office 2 as I read on SDL's webpage that it was compatible but I cannot work it out and am not receiving any answers from Trados' online help...
Regards


 
Victor Foster
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Which environment Feb 1, 2007

esperantisto wrote:

WordFast is just a bunch of macros for Microsoft Word, thus, obviously, it can't be used outside Word (and Word can't read OOo files).
Trados 2006 is said to be able to work with OpenDocument (aka OpenOffice.org 2.x) files via TagEditor, but I can't confirm.
Beside OmegaT (which is definitely a marvelous program), DejaVu X also can work with OOo files, but only with OOo 1.x.

[Редактировалось 2006-11-13 14:26]


When you say SDL Trados is now compatible with Open Office, is that just for the Windows environment? I have OO on my Mac and on a box running Linux but not on my Windows machine.


 
Victor Foster
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I found the answer Feb 1, 2007

Huub Stegeman wrote:

... the general trend in TM software is away from integration with the word processor, and towards standalone products with a dedicated interface.

Marc


Indeed, thanks to SDL acquiring Trados. I'm about to order the latest version after patiently slaving away for years with older versions of Trados.

Once the new version is installed, I'll be using the SLDX-interface and installing Open Office on my pc for any other wordprocessing.

Free at last, I can't wait!

Next step would be SDL Trados for Linux. Last time I asked, they said they had no plans. Shame, I'd like to get rid of Windows completely

Huub


Okay, that answers my question. It's doesn't work in the Linux environment. Too bad.


 
Tiberiu Leon
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Anaphraseus Nov 7, 2008

Anaphraseus may be the tool one sorely expects...
http://sourceforge.net/projects/anaphraseus/
Opensource extension for OpenOffice, works in version 2.x and 3.x of the programm, worth checking... It is a kind of Wordfast extension for OpenOffice, incipient, but promising...
But as you see, Wordfast has already moved from the Word interface in the latest version in favour of
... See more
Anaphraseus may be the tool one sorely expects...
http://sourceforge.net/projects/anaphraseus/
Opensource extension for OpenOffice, works in version 2.x and 3.x of the programm, worth checking... It is a kind of Wordfast extension for OpenOffice, incipient, but promising...
But as you see, Wordfast has already moved from the Word interface in the latest version in favour of an own GUI. Anyway, this is a good alternative also for Linux machines... Give it a try...

From the web page:
Anaphraseus is a CAT (Computer Aided Translation) tool, OpenOffice.org 2 macro set similar to famous Wordfast. It is an OpenOffice.org macro set available as an OpenOffice.org extension or a standalone document.

It is a tool for creating, managing and using bilingual Translation Memories in any languages.

Originally, Anaphraseus was developed to work with the Wordfast Translation Memory format, but it can also export/import files in the Unicode UTF-16 Translation Memory Exchange (TMX) format.

Key features:
* Text Segmentation
* Terminology Recognition
* Inexact (Fuzzy) search in Translation Memory
* Unicode UTF16 TMX Export/Import
* Plain text and Unicode UTF16 TM, Glossary
* User Glossary
* OpenOffice.org Extension
* Ready for localisation in any language

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