propriamente detto

Inglese translation: in the strict sense (of the word)

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Termine o frase Italiano:propriamente detto
Traduzione in Inglese:in the strict sense (of the word)
Inserita da: claudia.arrighi

02:49 Oct 16, 2008
Traduzioni da Italiano a Inglese [PRO]
Art/Literary - Filosofia
Termine o frase Italiano: propriamente detto
"ci sono le percezioni propriamente dette, e quelle ricordate"
claudia.arrighi
Italia
Local time: 09:14
in the strict sense
Spiegazione:
Similar to André's - who I hope will forgive me -, but significantly different. Strictly speaking tends to be used to qualify the sense of a whole sentence, while 'in the strict sense' that of a single word or phrase. Strictly speaking is used to circumscribe the scope of the discourse, 'in a strict sense' to circumscribe the meaning of a word/phrase

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Note added at 2 hrs (2008-10-16 05:21:10 GMT)
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lots of examples:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q="in the strict sense"&b...

could also say
IN THE STRICT SENSE OF THE TERM
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simon tanner
Italia
Local time: 09:14
Grading comment
Thanks! Exactly what I needed.
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4 +4in the strict sense
simon tanner
5strictly speaking
André Barros
4 +1per se /themselves
James (Jim) Davis
3Properly so called
Gad Kohenov
3properly said
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53 min   Affidabilità: Answerer confidence 5/5
strictly speaking


Spiegazione:
Per esempio:

*‘It is worth noting that, although, for purposes of Article 6(3), an assessment does not, strictly speaking, need to look beyond the plan or project proposed to address alternative solutions and mitigation measures, there may be a range of benefits from doing so.’

*«occorrerebbe segnalare che, a rigor di termini, l'art. 6, n. 3, non impone di sottoporre a valutazione di incidenza, oltre al piano o progetto propriamente detto, anche eventuali soluzioni alternative e misure di attenuazione del danno, e tuttavia ciò potrebbe comportare una serie di vantaggi»
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/Notice.do?mode=dbl&lang=en&ihmlang=...



André Barros
Brasile
Local time: 04:14
Madrelingua: Portoghese
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2 ore   Affidabilità: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 approvazioni dei colleghi (rete) +1
per se /themselves


Spiegazione:
"there are perceptions per se and those remembered"
"there are perceptions themselves and those remembered"
Confidence of 4, only because there are many acceptable ways of translating this.

James (Jim) Davis
Seicelle
Local time: 11:14
Madrelingua: Inglese
Punti PRO nella categoria: 27

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accordo  Ivana UK: per se is perfect
7 ore
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2 ore   Affidabilità: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
Properly so called


Spiegazione:
propriaménte
av

1 (= realmente) really, properly
• era propriamente lui it was him; io propriamente non sapevo nulla I actually knew nothing; i fatti sono andati propriamente così this is how things really went

Reminds me of proprement dit in French.

2 (= in senso proprio) literally, properly
• propriamente detto proper (pospositivo); il termine è usato propriamente the term is used literally


Gad Kohenov
Israele
Local time: 10:14
Madrelingua: Francese, Ebraico
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2 ore   Affidabilità: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 approvazioni dei colleghi (rete) +4
in the strict sense


Spiegazione:
Similar to André's - who I hope will forgive me -, but significantly different. Strictly speaking tends to be used to qualify the sense of a whole sentence, while 'in the strict sense' that of a single word or phrase. Strictly speaking is used to circumscribe the scope of the discourse, 'in a strict sense' to circumscribe the meaning of a word/phrase

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Note added at 2 hrs (2008-10-16 05:21:10 GMT)
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lots of examples:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q="in the strict sense"&b...

could also say
IN THE STRICT SENSE OF THE TERM

simon tanner
Italia
Local time: 09:14
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Madrelingua: Inglese
Punti PRO nella categoria: 16
Grading comment
Thanks! Exactly what I needed.

Commenti dei colleghi su questa risposta (e interventi di chi ha risposto)
accordo  Shera Lyn Parpia: also, the second part of the sentence sounds better this way.
55 min
  -> thanks Shera Lyn

accordo  Umberto Cassano
4 ore
  -> thanks Umberto

accordo  André Barros: Ok Simon, good explanation! :-)
6 ore
  -> thanks André; glad you didn't think I was usurping your answer!

neutrale  James (Jim) Davis: "circumscribe the scope of the discourse", I suppose you mean... erm, but just what do you mean, in language that would earn you points from the plain English society? ;-) He who speaks a language no one understands, does not speak. Gadamer. Just done it.
7 ore
  -> in plain English I'd say "in the strict sense", of course. "Circumscribe the scope of the discourse" is the sort of stuff my Italian colleagues write in their academic papers ;-)

accordo  Ivana UK
7 ore
  -> thanks Ivana
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6 ore   Affidabilità: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
properly said


Spiegazione:
maybe something like: there are properly sad perceptions and....

just a suggestion ;-)

Traducendo Co. Ltd
Malta
Local time: 09:14
Madrelingua: Italiano
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