Sep 15, 2016 10:56
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Italiano term

monti di pietà

Da Italiano a Inglese Affari/Finanza Affari/Commercio (generale)
Book regarding the economy in 18th century Naples.

I was hoping there was another term besides "pawnshop" because it doesn't seem correct in this context.

Example: Infine, come in tutta la penisola, nel Mezzogiorno operava un consideravole numero di istituzioni di credito di antica tradizione nelle quali le indubbie finalità creditizie si confondevano con quelle assistenziali, monti di pietà e, con un'estensione e un peso però di gran lunga maggiore rispetto agli altri Stati italiani, monti frumentari e pecuniari.

Discussion

Helen Pringle Sep 15, 2016:
monti di pietà Take a look at this entry in English - it may give you some ideas: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_of_piety

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mount of pietry

A mount of piety is an institutional pawnbroker run as a charity in Europe from the Late Middle Ages times ...

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Idea

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Thanks apitassi

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PIETY, of course :)
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disagree James (Jim) Davis : Urban Dictionary: pietry www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pietry Urban Dictionary pietry. a word for gay german wardrivers. look, it's a pietry! // The answerer selected it without the correction! Is it in the glossary as pietry?
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Monti pietà ("piety" loan funds)

I do it this way. Even pawnbroker rather than shop would convey the wrong idea of greedy money making rather than charitable nonprofit lending.
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Christian-inspired, eleemosynary credit institutions

An object-lesson for the Neapolitan HQ (vs. New York 'branch') of the Camorra.

Translation modelled on Helen P's ref. So Christian-inspired is euphemistc for the anti-Semitic backlash against perceived instances of usury.

NB the mount is in the plural.

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http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/eleemosynary
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pawnbrokers

just found in the Net, and never experienced in person. However my choice originates from the following:

though it is true that this institution was founded centuries ago for merciful credit against valuables (and to challenge the Jewish pawnbroking stalls), pls note that now it is in fact a business.... there's an interest rate to pay and fees for belated payments of instalments etc. Unpaid or unclaimed jewelry pieces are auctioned after some time. nd I heard that the origin of the goods deposited cannot be checked and sometimes it is not water-clear.... In Rome the Monte di Pietà is rather famous, has its own square with its name just in front of the jewish ghetto and it is managed by a major bank.

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Monti di pietà or Mounts of Piety (non-speculative credit institutions/unions)

I would give the (established) literal translation and then add a gloss in brackets.
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