'an abusive (text) message'

Dutch translation: Beledigend (tekst)bericht

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English term or phrase:\'an abusive (text) message\'
Dutch translation:Beledigend (tekst)bericht
Entered by: Dr Iris Dorreboom

09:56 Jun 21, 2023
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English term or phrase: 'an abusive (text) message'
It's a term used to describe text messages a person has sent to ex-wife. They are abusive in character. What would be a good Dutch equivalent? Thanks!
Dr Iris Dorreboom
Netherlands
Local time: 01:53
Beledigend (tekst)bericht
Explanation:
Het eerste dat in mij opkomt
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Robert Rietvelt
Local time: 01:53
Grading comment
Bedankt, Robert. Samen met de commentaren van de anderen is dit het woord dat ik in de context van de te vertalen tekst het meest zal gebruiken.
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Summary of answers provided
3 +2Beledigend (tekst)bericht
Robert Rietvelt
5een lasterlijk bericht
Annick Knops
3 +1(sms-)bericht met grof taalgebruik
Kitty Brussaard
4Een gewelddadig (tekst)bericht
Melissa van der Sar
Summary of reference entries provided
Barend van Zadelhoff

  

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Beledigend (tekst)bericht


Explanation:
Het eerste dat in mij opkomt

Robert Rietvelt
Local time: 01:53
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in DutchDutch
PRO pts in category: 16
Grading comment
Bedankt, Robert. Samen met de commentaren van de anderen is dit het woord dat ik in de context van de te vertalen tekst het meest zal gebruiken.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Kirsten Bodart: Or 'kwetsend', but it seems indeed to be translated this way most of the time.
1 hr
  -> "kwetsend" zou ook kunnen. Bedankt

agree  Melissa van der Sar: Ik ben het hier zeker mee eens. Staat er meer in de context hoe beledigend het (tekst) bericht was? Anders zou het ook nog een 'gewelddadig' (tekst)bericht kunnen zijn
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een lasterlijk bericht


Explanation:
Abusive referring to a message: dishonoring, slanderous and defamatory. A form of verbal violence to bring one’s reputation down.

Example sentence(s):
  • Zijn lasterlijke aantijgingen na de relatiebreuk vonden geen weerklank bij haar collega’s.
Annick Knops
Norway
Local time: 01:53
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in DutchDutch

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Wordcrafting
21 mins

disagree  Kirsten Bodart: laster is clearly something said to ruin someone's reputation vis-à-vis someone else (or the general public). An abusive text is just a message calling the recipient names.
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
an abusive (text) message
(sms-)bericht met grof taalgebruik


Explanation:
Het hangt natuurlijk allemaal van de inhoud van de berichten in kwestie af, maar zelf zou ik voor de vertaling eerder focussen op de aard van de berichten dan op het effect dat ze bij de ontvanger sorteren (beledigend, kwetsend, aanstootgevend, intimiderend, etc.).



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PS Bij een 'abusive message' denk ik vooral aan een bericht waarin iemand wordt uitgescholden, dus voor van alles en nog wat wordt uitgemaakt. Dit is ook de meest gangbare betekenis van 'using abusive language'.

Kitty Brussaard
Netherlands
Local time: 01:53
Native speaker of: Native in DutchDutch
PRO pts in category: 15
Notes to answerer
Asker: Dank je, Kitty. Dit lijkt mij een goede oplossing om te gebruiken in de verschillende contexten waarin het gebruikt wordt.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Elma de Jong
3 hrs
  -> Dank je wel, Elma.
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273 days   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
Een gewelddadig (tekst)bericht


Explanation:
Het hangt er vanaf wat de context van de tekst is en wat de ernst van de inhoud van het bericht is. Een beledigend (tekst)bericht is naar mijn mening zeker juist, maar als de inhoud meer dan beledigend is, dan zou het ook als gewelddadig vertaald kunnen worden.

Melissa van der Sar
United Kingdom
Local time: 00:53
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in DutchDutch
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Reference comments


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Reference

Reference information:
Volgens mij moet je dat 'abusive' heel breed nemen.

What is considered an abusive text message?

So, it is critical that abusive text messages be taken seriously. Types of domestic abuse that can involve text messages include emotional and mental abuse (also known as psychological abuse). Generally, these text messages include abrasive language, swear words, and threats of violence, but not always.

What are examples of abusive language?
Verbal Abuse: Examples, Signs, and Effects — Talkspace
Common verbal abuse signs may include any of the below.

Name-calling. Excessively using insults or calling someone names is an example of abusive behavior. ...
Criticizing and judging. ...
Degrading. ...
Threatening. ...
Screaming/yelling. ...
Gaslighting. ...
Manipulating



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A Saudi Arabian man has been sentenced to 40 lashes for sending hundreds of abusive messages to his ex-wife on WhatsApp.

The court in the port city of Jeddah, western Saudi Arabia, also ruled that the woman has the right to attend her ex-husband's lashing session.

The former couple had been locked in a custody battle over their three children, during which the man sent more than 600 insulting and threatening texts to his ex.

The messages were described as 'obscene, offensive, derogatory, sexually explicit, insulting and slandering', according to Saudi Arabian news website Okaz.

They also reportedly included 'accusations about her presentation and morality'

This is far from the first time Saudi Arabian citizens have faced corporal punishment for sending insulting messages on WhatsApp.

Article Three of the Saudi Anti-Cyber Crime Law states that any person who commits 'defamation and infliction of damage upon others' using technological devices might have to face imprisonment for up to a year and a fine not exceeding 500,000 Saudi Riyal (£90,171).

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6388353/Saudi-Arabi...

Nine out of 10 hateful posts tracked in darkest corners of the internet targeted Ardern - new study

An online hate tracker found Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern was the target of 93% of toxic posts against seven high profile politicians and officials, with a total of 5438 abusive messages.

Auckland University researchers analysed the darkest corners of the internet for posts mentioning Ardern and six unnamed politicians and bureaucrats, from 2019 to 2022.

Senior lecturer in politics and international relations, Chris Wilson, said Ardern was overwhelmingly the target both of all posts, and of those deemed hateful or toxic.

“The disparity surprised even me,” said Wilson, who is also the director of Hate and Extremism Insights Aotearoa. “The only conclusion you can draw is that it was just ongoing, incessant vitriol focussed on the PM, over a long period, that never went away.”

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/131038776/nine-out...

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volgens mij zou

'agressieve / haatdragende berichten' (en varianten)

ook kunnen.

Abuse

- mishandeling
- aanranding
- beschimping

Barend van Zadelhoff
Netherlands
Native speaker of: Native in DutchDutch
PRO pts in category: 34
Note to reference poster
Asker: Dank je, Barend. Nuttig. Dit is inderdaad de context waarin het gebruikt wordt.

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