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nicht doch

English translation: doesn't exclude ... did occur

18:44 Apr 9, 2013
German to English translations [PRO]
Medical - Medical (general) / grayware
German term or phrase: nicht doch
Could somebody so kind to explain me and translate the meaning/use of "nicht doch" in the following sentence?

Context (previous sentence):
Bei zehn Patienten der XXXXX-Gruppe (Nrn. 2, 4, 35, 38, 43, 47, 59, 63, 64 und 69) und bei fünf Patienten der Placebo-Gruppe (Nrn. 24, 29, 51, 62 und 68) wurden somit weder bei der CCT noch bei der MRT Befunde, die den vermuteten Infarkt bestätigten, dokumentiert.
Problematic sentence:
"Dies schliesst allerdings nicht aus, dass ein solcher Infarkt nicht doch tatsächlich vorlag."

Thanks in advance!
LACtranslations
Local time: 15:00
English translation:doesn't exclude ... did occur
Explanation:
However, this doesn't exclude that such an infarction actually did occur.
Selected response from:

Olav Rixen
Canada
Local time: 11:00
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4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4 +7doesn't exclude ... did occur
Olav Rixen
3 +1'not nonetheless'
Carmen Lawrence


  

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12 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +7
doesn't exclude ... did occur


Explanation:
However, this doesn't exclude that such an infarction actually did occur.

Olav Rixen
Canada
Local time: 11:00
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman
PRO pts in category: 12
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks, Olav. I doubted about the "negative sense or not" of the second part of the sentence.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Stefanie Reinhold: exactly
9 mins
  -> Thanks, Stefanie.
agree  RegineMac: Yes. I'd add "the possibility" (as in "this doesn't exclude the possibility that such an infarction actually did occur). I think it clarifies the meaning.
23 mins
  -> Thanks, Regine.
agree  Heike Holthaus
25 mins
  -> Thanks, Heike.
agree  Cetacea
1 hr
  -> Thanks, Cetacea.
agree  Lirka
1 hr
  -> Thanks, lirka.
agree  Anne Schulz
13 hrs
agree  Edith Kelly
1 day 25 mins
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36 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
'not nonetheless'


Explanation:
a bit of a double negative, could be translated as 'did not actually occur'

Carmen Lawrence
Greece
Local time: 21:00
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 32

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Anne Schulz: wrong German (double negative with "dass" is inappropriate, IMO)
13 hrs
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