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Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

Ministre des Domaines, du Cadastre et des Affaires Foncières

English translation:

Minister of State Property, Surveys and Land Tenure

Added to glossary by B D Finch
Feb 3, 2017 16:41
7 yrs ago
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French term

Ministre des Domaines, du Cadastre et des Affaires Foncières

French to English Law/Patents Government / Politics Property Law, Camaroon
L’arrêté de déclaration d’utilité publique devient caduc si, dans un délai de deux ans à compter de la date de sa notification au service ou à l’organisme bénéficiaire, il n’est pas suivi d’expropriation effective.

Sa validité ne peut être prorogée qu’une seule fois par arrêté du Ministre des Domaines, du Cadastre et des Affaires Foncières pour une durée n’excédant pas un an.
Proposed translations (English)
4 +5 Minister of State Property, Surveys and Land Tenure
3 +1 Minister of State property and land affairs
4 Minister of Land and State Property
References
Official version of "cadastre"
Change log

Feb 5, 2017 21:26: B D Finch Created KOG entry

Proposed translations

+5
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Minister of State Property, Surveys and Land Tenure

allafrica.com/stories/201601191639.html
19 Jan 2016 - Officials of the Ministry of State Property, Surveys and Land Tenure are meeting in Yaounde to discuss government's industrialisation ...

crtv.cm/.../land-management-under-discourse-in-yaou...
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17/08/2016Land management experts are meeting in Yaounde to seek ... The Minister of State Property, Surveys and Land Tenure, Jacqueline Koung à

www.spm.gov.cm/fr/gouvernement/composition/jacqueline-koung... Koum à Bessike. Ministre des Domaines, du Cadastre et des Affaires Foncières. Biographie; Missions; Feuille de Route; Contacts. connection ...

www.cameroonconcordnews.com/cameroon-land-management-expert... Aug 2016 - Land management experts are meeting in Yaounde to seek solutions to ... The Minister of State Property, Surveys and Land Tenure, Jacqueline ...
Peer comment(s):
agree writeaway : too bad they don't bring back/enforce the rule making people look things up before they ask. Call me old-fashioned but I still do my own research
1 hr
Thans writeaway. Yes, some of the better agencies do notice such things.
agree AllegroTrans : This is the "official" EN title on the Cameroon government website; http://www.mindcaf.cm/site/index.php/?lang=en ; however, much of the English on that site is, to put it mildly, dodgy....
1 hr
Thanks AT// It looks as though it's been Google-translated. Should that be Googlated? Nonetheless, if that is what the Minister has on her business card and how she is formally introduced, she may wish to stick with it.
agree Peter LEGUIE : Yes, this seems fairly obvious.
1 hr
Thanks Peter
agree Chakib Roula : Thank you for your explanation.
2 hrs
a) Because that's what they choose to call "cadastre"; b) Because surveys are required to produce cadastral plans.
agree Nathalie Stewart
7 hrs
Thanks Nathalie
neutral Nikki Scott-Despaigne : Instead of Survey, altho' I know that surveys are required, the "cadastre" is actually defined by the ensemble of the documents, which include surveys, but not only; "cadastral registry"? "land survey registry"? "Cadastral", cf. ref post, official site?
1 day 16 hrs
Yes, that was more an attempt at an explanation for why they used "Surveys" in the name than a defence of that choice.
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+1
9 mins

Minister of State property and land affairs

Peer comment(s):
agree philgoddard : Don't know why everyone is going for the other answer, as this one is perfectly good. // Actually I've just realised Cameroon's official languages are English and French, but they're still totally inconsistent about what they call the ministry in English.
3 hrs
Thank you Philgoddard for your insightful explanation.
neutral AllegroTrans : Your example is from the Russian Empire and not Cameroon!!
1 day 4 hrs
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18 hrs

Minister of Land and State Property

The title of a government ministry needs to be as short and snappy as possible. The responsibilities of the minister all have to do with land, so "land" has to be prominent in the title. The minister also has responsibility for government property - buildings as well as land, so one needs to add "state property" or "public property" or "the public estate". The reason I am not 100% confident about this translation is that there may already be an accepted translation in (regular/consistent) use, in spite of it being unwieldy.

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Note added at 18 hrs (2017-02-04 10:54:49 GMT)
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I would translate "cadastre" as "land registry", for which, of course, surveys have to be done. But it isn't only about surveying.
Reference:

http://www.atangana-eteme-emeran.com/spip.php?article8410

Peer comment(s):
neutral AllegroTrans : I would NOT translate "cadastre" as Land Registry; it's the Cadastral Registry (which registers the results of land surveys) and it's separate from the Land Registry (which registers ownership, mortgages etc.) in the majority of civil law countries
11 hrs
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Reference comments

1 day 17 hrs
Reference:

Official version of "cadastre"

The translation of an official title, such as the name of a Ministry, rbings the translator up against one of the standard "do no translate" situations. After all, it is a proper noun. The idea is that someone looking for the Ministry in question will not be able to track it down with an English title. Makes sense.

One exception to this would be where the official site of the organism has an official EN version. That is the case here. I would say that the rule is to be adhered to, so long as the official EN version is not a complete mess, which is sometimes the case. Professional judgment and common sense are to be used, obviously. I would suggest that the EN version of the "cadastre" as indicated below is suitable.

https://www.cadastre.gouv.fr/scpc/accueil.do
Bienvenue sur le service de consultation du plan cadastral.
Le plan cadastral français disponible en ligne est composé de 597247 feuilles de plan aux formats image ou vecteur.
Ce service vous permet de rechercher, consulter et commander ces feuilles de plan.

https://www.cadastre.gouv.fr/scpc/changeLangue.do?CSRF_TOKEN...
Welcome to the cadastral map consultation service.
The cadastral map of France available on line is composed of 597247 plans in image or vector format.
This service allows you to search, view and order these map plans.
550004 vectorial plans
47243 scanned plan
Peer comments on this reference comment:
neutral Gordon Matthews : I find this very helpful, but am not fully in agreement with using the word "cadastral" in an English translation. It would depend on the readership. If the translation were for a general audience, I would not use the word "cadastral" without explanation.
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