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Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

hertzien

English translation:

television/terrestrial

Added to glossary by Dr Andrew Read
Jan 12, 2005 21:08
19 yrs ago
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French term

hertzien

French to English Other Cinema, Film, TV, Drama TV coproduction agreement
In this TV coproduction agreement, I think this has got to be translated simply as television, eg:

35.000 EUROS HT au titre de l'achat des droits de diffusion hertziens satellite et câble.
= € 35,000 BEFORE TAX for the purchase of the satellite and cable television broadcasting rights

AND:
75.000 EUROS HT au titre de l'achat des droits de diffusion hertziens terrestres,
Must equal:
€ 75,000 BEFORE TAX for the purchase of the terrestrial television broadcasting rights

Mustn't it? Please give sensible answers and don't just suggest "Hertzian"! Thanks
Proposed translations (English)
3 broadcast(ing)
4 +5 terrestrial, satellite and cable TV broadcasting
4 +1 network
4 +1 wireless?
4 hetzian - standard tv (neither cable nor satellite) terrestrial could be hertzian or/and numerical

Discussion

David Sirett Jan 13, 2005:
"hertzien" is not used here in its customary/proper sense of conventional broadcast (analogue or digital), i.e. not cable or satellite. So IMO your solution is better than any suggested, though you could drop "television" as Dusty (I think) suggests.
df49f (X) Jan 12, 2005:
Got it? :-))) (and digital of course, sorry for typo)
df49f (X) Jan 12, 2005:
df49f (X) Jan 12, 2005:
!!!! just agreed that Hertzien= terrestrial - But you have hertzien analogique (plain old terrestrial for your first price and I do believe it is a list "hertzien, satellite, cable") and for 75000 you get "herztien terrestre->digitial terrestrial"
Ian Burley (X) Jan 12, 2005:
I don't think df49f is agreeing with me, but rather saying that Sue and I are right to agree with him!
Non-ProZ.com Jan 12, 2005:
@df49f Can I stick with your answer (which basically coincides) with my original proposal? Now you're agreeing with iburley's suggestion but he/she's agreeing with your original suggestion! Oh dear!
df49f (X) Jan 12, 2005:
->Sue & iburley- you're right hertzien = terrestrial
Ian Burley (X) Jan 12, 2005:
Just read your addition. I initially read it as a list. I think df49f's answer may be the best.
Ian Burley (X) Jan 12, 2005:
Non-ProZ.com Jan 12, 2005:
Note to everyone Please check your answers as "hertzien" is not in a list with satellite and cable. Instead it qualifies the satellite and cable broadcasting rights in one sentence and qualifies the terrestrial broadcasting rights in the other sentence. (See context above.) Thanks!
Non-ProZ.com Jan 12, 2005:
@Parrot Thanks also for ideas, but am still not sure - do you know if "terrestrial" counts as "wireless"?
Non-ProZ.com Jan 12, 2005:
@iburley thanks for idea, but check again, as "hertzien" appears in both of the above sentences, so why would it be "network, satellite and cable" and "network and terrestrial" listed twice.

Proposed translations

2 hrs
Selected

broadcast(ing)

Just to try and clarify the way I see this: if that plural agreement on 'hertziens' is correct, then it seems to me it qualifies 'droits', and as such, is being used in its broadest sense of 'broadcasting' --- the 'by radio waves' is implicit and can be ignored.

So I think these are simply 'broadcast rights', which would be the equivalent term we'd almost certainly be using in the English equivalent document.

In this specific context, I don't beleive this has anything whatsoever to do with the terrestrial/other or analogue/digital questions in which this term so often crops up.

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Note added at 10 hrs 57 mins (2005-01-13 08:05:51 GMT)
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To further clarify:

the 35k is for the satellite & cable rights (i.e. specifically NOT terrestrial)

the 75K is for the specifically terrestrial rights (NO mention of either digital or analogue)

These sums would appear logical for the types of broadcasting being cited.
Peer comment(s):
neutral Bourth (X) : Good point, but it would make greatest sense with "hertzien" in the singular, followed by a comma (which a typist may have read as an S?).
7 hrs
Thanks, Alex --- in fact, I see nothing wrong with the compound noun 'droit de diffusion' taking a plural on the 'droit' only, and hence the plural 'hertziens' agreement is perfectly correct and OK
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks, Dusty. I'm absolutely convinced that you and I were right on this one - thanks for your well reasoned support. I also agree with your note to Bourth. Note to my friend df49f and others - it was very important here to note the plural "s" on the end of "hertzien" and the fact that it was *not* a list of adjectives with satellite, cable, etc as "hertziens" also appears with "terrestre" in the parallel sentence."
+1
5 mins

network

Giving you "network, satellite and cable" which just about covers the field...
Peer comment(s):
agree sarahl (X)
4 mins
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+1
6 mins

wireless?

as in wireless broadcast TV.
Reference:

http://dict.die.net/hertzian%20telegraphy/

Peer comment(s):
agree Patrice : Hertzian and non-Hertzian waves are a type of wireless -- see http://205.243.100.155/frames/Non-Herzian_Waves.html
10 mins
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22 mins

hetzian - standard tv (neither cable nor satellite) terrestrial could be hertzian or/and numerical

News Release
... ATRAC 3: 105kbps; RealAudio: ISDN; Windows Media Audio: ISDN. Non-linear data
compression, FM (FM multiple broadcast, terrestrial hertzian TV broadcast); ...
www.nri.co.jp/english/news/2000/001006/001006-1.html - 7k - Cached - Similar pages

[PDF] Study on the development of new advertising techniques - Germany
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
... RTL anlagogical/hertzian Hertzian Hertzian, TV Cable, Satellite, internet
live stream teste phase SAT. 1 anlagogical/hertzian Hertzian ...
europa.eu.int/comm/avpolicy/ stat/bird_bird/pub_tv_germany.pdf - Similar pages

[PDF] Study on the development of new advertising techniques - France
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
... RTL9 Analogical Hertzian Hertzian TMC Analogical Hertzian Hertzian TV Suisse (TSR)
Analogical Hertzian Hertzian La Une Belge Analogical Hertzian Hertzian ...
europa.eu.int/comm/avpolicy/ stat/bird_bird/pub_tv_france.pdf - Similar pages
[ More results from europa.eu.int ]

JASRAC
... Non-linear data compression, l FM (FM multiple broadcast, terrestrial hertzian TV
broadcast) l AM (AM broadcast) l PCM (Satellite TV broadcast: communications ...
www.jasrac.or.jp/ejhp/release/2000/1006.html - 27k - Cached - Similar pages

Announcement of Evaluation Test Results for “STEP 2000”
... Non-linear data compression. l FM (FM multiple broadcast, terrestrial hertzian TV
broadcast). ... l FM (FM multiple broadcast, terrestrial hertzian TV broadcast). ...
www.jasrac.or.jp/watermark/ehoukoku.htm - 28k - Cached - Similar pages

Presentation Issue 54
... In the same way that Cable TV previously replaced Hertzian TV in many homes, the
new technologies of Broadcast TV will slowly replace Cable TV. ...
www.protoculture.ca/PA/edito54.htm - 9k - Cached - Similar pages

Tour de France à la Voile 2002
... 1 . Television : a increase of Hertzian TV coverage. ... 1. TELEVISION. (Source "La voix
des Médias"). Hertzian TV. 2000. 2001. Channel. Length. Programmes. Length. ...
we141.lerelaisinternet.com/synth/2001.htm - 60k - Cached - Similar pages

Yahoo! - NETGEM profile
... the high profile French TV journalist Anne Sinclair has been responsible for the
promotion of the new concept of interactive airwave [Hertzian] TV developed by ...
uk.biz.yahoo.com/p/e/etgm.ln.html - 26k - Cached - Similar pages

Web Net Museum-Fred forest-Retrospective-Sociologic art-Aesthetic ...
... 41. INSTALLATION VIDEO ART + HERTZIAN TV. HOMAGE IN MONDRIAN. (HOMMAGE À MONDRIAN).
TECHNEITRONICA, VILLA BRUNO, NAPLES, ITALY. DECEMBER 7, 1989. ...
www.webnetmuseum.org/html/ en/expo-retr-fredforest/actions/41_en.htm - 38k - Cached - Similar pages

[PDF] PT MULTIMEDIA (BVL: PTMN
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
... Establishment of partnerships with all hertzian TV stations operating in Portugal
(SIC, TVI, RTP) and with producers of eight of TV Cabo’s thematic ...
ir.sapo.pt/PTM_ing.pdf - Similar pages
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+5
19 mins

terrestrial, satellite and cable TV broadcasting

http://www.indiantelevision.com/

http://www.skylife.co.kr/eng/user/sub01_4.html



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Note added at 21 mins (2005-01-12 21:29:47 GMT)
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now we also have DTTV digital terrestrial TV -> télévision numérique terrestre (qui est calqué sur l\'anglais)

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Note added at 43 mins (2005-01-12 21:51:31 GMT)
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on parle aussi maintenant de \"hertzien terrestre/numérique\" -> digital terrestrial (par opposition au \"hertzien analogique\"

donc les 75000 euro serait pour le hertzien terrestre/numérique

http://www.skylife.co.kr/eng/user/sub01_4.html

Peer comment(s):
agree Dr Sue Levy (X) : R&C dico: hertzien=terrestrial
7 mins
agree Ian Burley (X) : best solution, I think
8 mins
agree VBaby : look no further
1 hr
agree David Goward
1 hr
agree Sara Freitas : Yup, as stated in teh comments above, these are the 5 non-cable and non-sattelite networks in France
9 hrs
agree Bourth (X) : Yes. Must be in the KudoZ archives too.
9 hrs
disagree Tony M : No, as Asker says, I don't believe the first occurrence is a 3-item list.
10 hrs
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