Glossary entry (derived from question below)
German term or phrase:
Erlebnisgesellschaft
English translation:
experience-driven society
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Textklick
Feb 5, 2004 11:07
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German term
United States
Erlebnisgesellschaft
German to English
Marketing
Education / Pedagogy
Bildungseinrichtung
Just when you thought it was safe to turn on your computer again...
Yes, it's worse than an Erlebniswelt, it's an "Erlebnisgesellschaft"!
"Der Trend zum Erlebnisgesellschaft eröffnet traditionellen Bildungseinrichtungen neue Möglichkeiten. Spannende, didaktisch konsequent konzipierte Angebote habe beste Chancen am Markt zu bestehen."
Yes, it's worse than an Erlebniswelt, it's an "Erlebnisgesellschaft"!
"Der Trend zum Erlebnisgesellschaft eröffnet traditionellen Bildungseinrichtungen neue Möglichkeiten. Spannende, didaktisch konsequent konzipierte Angebote habe beste Chancen am Markt zu bestehen."
Proposed translations
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Change log
Jun 25, 2005 13:30: Steffen Walter changed "Field (specific)" from "(none)" to "Education / Pedagogy"
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experience-driven society
or - as it's marketing and therefore business - "experience economy"?
The link is great, with all sorts of weirdies like "entertailing"
HTH
The link is great, with all sorts of weirdies like "entertailing"
HTH
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jerrie
: experience-driven society seems to say it all
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Thanks Jerrie
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Roddy Stegemann
: All societies are driven by experience. I find this to be a very blah rendering of an important concept. See Robert Bembem's comment under my entry.
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If you note the subject and understand the question you will possibly realise that this concerns marketing and brand development rather than philosophy.
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TonyTK
: Not bad either
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Thanks Tony- Seems you can see the the tree in these tortuous woodlands.
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Deborah Shannon
: yes I can buy into this rendering, especially with the clever diagrams of aesthetic/entertaining/educational/escapist experience - I'd stick to society though
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Thanks you Deborah. I don't understand why this seems to be such a difficult one to sort ;-)
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Gareth McMillan
: Agree and further substantiated by Richard's link, Ford Corp., the ancient Mayans an' masel ' (heh, heh).
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Thanks Gareth. I couldnae be airsed tae read the link. But "going forward" (despicable expression) I see few Mayans ;-)as they say in th
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Brandis (X)
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks to everyone for their help, I found it very hard to pick just one answer. I was fascinated by Hirselina's information that there isactually a book in German and English under this title. However, as they text is not geared to sociologists but potential donors for an educational/cultural facility I decided to go with something more self-explanatory like Textklick's experience-driven society. Many thanks to everyone, however."
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Steffen Walter
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fun society / adventure society
just to get the ball rolling - others may come up w/ sth. more sophisticated
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event society? (but that may be a bit off the mark IMHO)
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The trend toward(s) an event(-oriented) / event(-focused) society...
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event society? (but that may be a bit off the mark IMHO)
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The trend toward(s) an event(-oriented) / event(-focused) society...
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Aniello Scognamiglio (X)
: "fun society" trifft m.E. den Kern der Sache sehr gut, siehe auch www.karl.aegee.org/oem/articles/oe7/s-brands.htm
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Roddy Stegemann
: Please see my link below. Although I am sure elements of fun and adventure are an important part of an Erlebnisgesellschaft, I have good reason to believe that something far more meaningful is implied. Please see my link below.
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trend towards constant stimulation
or people's desire to seek out new experiences
to add a couple more ideas!
to add a couple more ideas!
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Roddy Stegemann
: Stimulation is a very important part of experimentation, but it does not capture fully the meaning of self-discovery and discovery of one's own society and environment that the term Erlebnisgesellschaft apparently implies. Please see my link below.
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writeaway
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Fantutti (X)
: Absolutely!
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Rephrase it
Personally, I feel any attempt to come up with a translation of "Erlebnisgesellschaft" as a noun will sound forced in English, so I would rephrase it along the following lines:
The growing importance of "events" in today's society opens up ...
The growing importance of "events" in today's society opens up ...
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Roddy Stegemann
: If my link is the original source of the word "Erlebnisgesellschaft", I believe a precise term is required. By the way, my comment to Amorel's entry should have been neutral as well. My criticism of your entry is similar to my criticism of yours.
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Gareth McMillan
: Sounds palatable. Hamo- there are other things in life apart from links. Things like expression, interpretation etc, all of which are part of our "Erlebnis". Nicht war?- sorry, no link.
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Thanks Uncle G.!
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danilingua
Germany
Germany
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hedonistic attitude
or sth like it as a possibility
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37 mins
Roddy Stegemann
United States
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experiential society
The term Erlebnisgesellschaft appears to have a somewhat authoritative source. Please see the below link for important insight. Based on the contents of this link I would use the term "experiential society". A society in which one discovers oneself and his society through subjective experimentation, rather than book learning, meditation, and other less interactive pursuits of the self and one's environment.
I believe this word requires a formal translation -- not a meaningful work around.
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Another possibility might be experimentation society but this might be taken by some to be too deliberate.
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To everyone: As you all can see I am very interested in the translation of this word. This is because it is very close to my own life style. I apologize, if I have been over enthusiastic, but if I am penalized ... Well, that is part of what responsible experimentation is all about! It is not all fun and games....
Comment to Ian: \"... my criticism of yours\" should have read \"... my criticism of hers\".
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Textklick: You have answered the Asker\'s question from the west-side of the Atlantic so-to-speak -- not from the east-side. If you can now make the connection from east to west, I will support your answer.
I believe this word requires a formal translation -- not a meaningful work around.
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Another possibility might be experimentation society but this might be taken by some to be too deliberate.
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To everyone: As you all can see I am very interested in the translation of this word. This is because it is very close to my own life style. I apologize, if I have been over enthusiastic, but if I am penalized ... Well, that is part of what responsible experimentation is all about! It is not all fun and games....
Comment to Ian: \"... my criticism of yours\" should have read \"... my criticism of hers\".
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Textklick: You have answered the Asker\'s question from the west-side of the Atlantic so-to-speak -- not from the east-side. If you can now make the connection from east to west, I will support your answer.
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KirstyMacC (X)
: maybe not a 'virtual-reality' soc....
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Yes, thanks very much for the additional clarification. We are in good agreement here.
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rjbemben
: I found an interesting web site on Ford's 'Glo Car'. Ford marketing foresees 5 scenarios of the future: The mosaic society, the experiential society, the sustainable society and the caring society". Interesting...
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I like it, simply I find so little of the last of the societies.
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ECP11
: Although the asker's association with *Erlebniswelt* gives the term a slightly devaluing nuance, the intended meaning in the original context seems to be more positive
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Yes, the asker does view the term with a negative predisposition or first impression, but then not everyone is fond of experimentation and direct interaction.
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Gareth McMillan
: The info in Robert's link has been nicked (also by Ford) from ancient Mayan philosophy. Googling is ok, IF you know where to google.
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Richard's link and entry appear to be missing. Perhaps you could repost them with your own entry. Your allusion to "masel" (See Textklick's entry) also requires clarification. Hereto I fail to see the connection.
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hirselina
Specializes in field
the "experience society"
"Erlebnisgesellschaft" is a very common term in German sociology. It is also the title of a book (1992) by Gerhard Schulze, which has been translated in English (Sage, 1995) as "The Experience Society".
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Roddy Stegemann
: Yes, this is also what I have in mind. Please see my link above. Simply with your double noun or verb-noun entry you are almost required to use quotation marks until it become an acceptable term in the English language.
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TonyTK
: In view of the educational/training context, maybe stick a "hands-on" in there - "hands-on experience society"??
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Deborah Shannon
Germany
Germany
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Germany
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trend towards an entertainment society
maybe -
"We live in an entertainment society," says media critic Neal Gabler. "We live in a society in which everything, including death, is taken as part of a movie," he says. "We demand of almost every aspect of life that we be entertained by it."
http://search.csmonitor.com/durable/1999/07/23/p1s4.htm
"for all practical purposes Western society is a 24- hour TV entertainment society. Everything is entertainment, from sporting event to big business, politics, certainly religion, and ev en academia. If it isn't fun, cute, or packaged in a ten-second sound bite, then forget it. If it can't be presented with a smiling, cheerful, sexy face, then it ain't worth attending to (Mitroff, 1989 p. 7)."
http://www.alia.org.au/~jcram/feminisation_library.html
"We live in an entertainment society," says media critic Neal Gabler. "We live in a society in which everything, including death, is taken as part of a movie," he says. "We demand of almost every aspect of life that we be entertained by it."
http://search.csmonitor.com/durable/1999/07/23/p1s4.htm
"for all practical purposes Western society is a 24- hour TV entertainment society. Everything is entertainment, from sporting event to big business, politics, certainly religion, and ev en academia. If it isn't fun, cute, or packaged in a ten-second sound bite, then forget it. If it can't be presented with a smiling, cheerful, sexy face, then it ain't worth attending to (Mitroff, 1989 p. 7)."
http://www.alia.org.au/~jcram/feminisation_library.html
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Roddy Stegemann
: Entertainment means fun and adventurous interaction. I believe there is more involved. Please see my link above.
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I could equally give a definition of what 'experience' means (to me) - you may be right about 'experience society' but I would not understand it without a further explanation
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"Reality" Edutainment
"Reality TV" is one example of this type of entertainment that's catching huge TV viewers. Another examples is 'Real Time' concept at amusement centers such as Disney, Space Park, Universal Studios, etc.
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Ellen Zittinger
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the pleasure-seeking society
the "me" generation
Discussion
The only other reference (so far) in the text is:
Anspr�che der B�rger:
* Steigerung der Lebensqualit�t und Kaufkraft im Allgemeinen und Wertewandel hin zu einer dienstleistungsorientierten Freizeit- und Erlebnisgesellschaf
Alle Klarheiten beseitigt???