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Aug 24, 2015 14:38
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Russian term
Specialist in Civil Law & Contracts
Native in: English 
Works in: Russian to English, English, Ukrainian to English
профессиональное суждение
Russian to English
Bus/Financial
Business/Commerce (general)
I've been editing a translation that contains this expression in a meaning that seems to imply a document of some kind, rather than an abstract concept.
подробные сведения ... в профессиональном суждении отсутствовали.
Профессиональное суждение ... не содержат сведений ...
Источники ... не отражались в профессиональном суждении.
I've left it at "professional judgement", because I can't think of anything better, but I'm not happy with this.
It's all about checking loans, and making sure there's no money laundering.
Can anybody suggest anything better?
подробные сведения ... в профессиональном суждении отсутствовали.
Профессиональное суждение ... не содержат сведений ...
Источники ... не отражались в профессиональном суждении.
I've left it at "professional judgement", because I can't think of anything better, but I'm not happy with this.
It's all about checking loans, and making sure there's no money laundering.
Can anybody suggest anything better?
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 +3 | professional opinon |
Oleg Lozinskiy
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| 3 +3 | evaluation / assessment / report |
Maria Sometti (Anishchankava)
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| 5 | assessing authority |
Jelena Scucka
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| 3 | expert opinion |
Irina Shevchenko
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Proposed translations
+3
4 mins
Maria Sometti (Anishchankava)
Native in Russian
Specializes in field
Russian/Belarusian interpreter
Native in: Russian 
, Belarusian
Works in: English to Russian, Italian to Russian, German to Russian, and 9 more.
evaluation / assessment / report
looks like this 'judgement' is a written document
Note from asker:
| Maria - from the context, it can't be an assessment. It could possibly be a "list of assessments" but it seems to relate to a portfolio of loans, not just one loan. |
+3
3 mins
Oleg Lozinskiy
Russian Federation
Russian Federation
Native in Russian
Specializes in field
Russian Federation
There's No Limit to Perfection
Native in: Russian
Works in: English to Russian, Russian to English, English
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professional opinon
https://www.google.ru/#newwindow=1&tbs=li:1&q=professional o...
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Note added at 4 мин (2015-08-24 14:43:44 GMT)
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Two lawyers --> three professional opinions
Two translators --> five translation options
:-)
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Note added at 6 мин (2015-08-24 14:45:10 GMT)
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[Letterhead of Practitioner]
Professional Opinion Letter Version 3.2
PROFESSIONAL OPINION LETTER
Instructions for completion of this professional opinion letter (this “professional opinion letter”):
1. This professional opinion letter may be authored by either:
A. An independent legal practitioner retained by and representing applicant (or an in-house legal practitioner employed by applicant) (“legal practitioner”) who is either:
I. A lawyer (or solicitor, barrister, advocate, or equivalent) licensed to practice law in the country of applicant’s jurisdiction of incorporation or registration or any jurisdiction where applicant maintains an office or physical facility, or
Ii. A latin notary that is a member of the international union of latin notaries, and is licensed to practice in the country of applicant’s jurisdiction of incorporation or registration or any jurisdiction where applicant maintains an office or physical facility (and that such jurisdiction recognizes the role of the latin notary); or
B. An independent accounting practitioner retained by and representing applicant (or an in-house accounting practitioner employed by applicant) (“accounting practitioner”) who is a certified public accountant, chartered accountant, or has an equivalent license within applicant’s jurisdiction of incorporation, jurisdiction of registration, or any jurisdiction where applicant maintains an office or physical facility. Verification of license must be through that jurisdiction’s member of the international federation of accountants (“ifac”) or through the regulatory organization in that jurisdiction appropriate to contact when verifying an accountant’s license to practice in that jurisdiction.
2. Starfield technologies, LLC. will verify the authenticity of this professional opinion letter.
3. For further information on the extended validation certificate vetting process, please refer to the most recent version of the guidelines for the issuance and management of extended validation certificates (the “guidelines”), which may be found at http://www.cabforum.org/documents.html.
https://www.google.ru/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd...
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Note added at 13 мин (2015-08-24 14:51:59 GMT)
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Sorry for the typo: opinIon
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Note added at 4 мин (2015-08-24 14:43:44 GMT)
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Two lawyers --> three professional opinions
Two translators --> five translation options
:-)
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Note added at 6 мин (2015-08-24 14:45:10 GMT)
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[Letterhead of Practitioner]
Professional Opinion Letter Version 3.2
PROFESSIONAL OPINION LETTER
Instructions for completion of this professional opinion letter (this “professional opinion letter”):
1. This professional opinion letter may be authored by either:
A. An independent legal practitioner retained by and representing applicant (or an in-house legal practitioner employed by applicant) (“legal practitioner”) who is either:
I. A lawyer (or solicitor, barrister, advocate, or equivalent) licensed to practice law in the country of applicant’s jurisdiction of incorporation or registration or any jurisdiction where applicant maintains an office or physical facility, or
Ii. A latin notary that is a member of the international union of latin notaries, and is licensed to practice in the country of applicant’s jurisdiction of incorporation or registration or any jurisdiction where applicant maintains an office or physical facility (and that such jurisdiction recognizes the role of the latin notary); or
B. An independent accounting practitioner retained by and representing applicant (or an in-house accounting practitioner employed by applicant) (“accounting practitioner”) who is a certified public accountant, chartered accountant, or has an equivalent license within applicant’s jurisdiction of incorporation, jurisdiction of registration, or any jurisdiction where applicant maintains an office or physical facility. Verification of license must be through that jurisdiction’s member of the international federation of accountants (“ifac”) or through the regulatory organization in that jurisdiction appropriate to contact when verifying an accountant’s license to practice in that jurisdiction.
2. Starfield technologies, LLC. will verify the authenticity of this professional opinion letter.
3. For further information on the extended validation certificate vetting process, please refer to the most recent version of the guidelines for the issuance and management of extended validation certificates (the “guidelines”), which may be found at http://www.cabforum.org/documents.html.
https://www.google.ru/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd...
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Note added at 13 мин (2015-08-24 14:51:59 GMT)
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Sorry for the typo: opinIon
Note from asker:
| This is not the name of a document, and that's what I'm looking for. |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Vladimir Zakharov
: Two translators for one option here, at least :)
3 mins
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Спасибо, Владимир!
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| agree |
Maxim Olshin
: Ещё "expert opinion", как вариант.
3 mins
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Спасибо, Максим!
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| agree |
Clive Wilshin
: Yes, definitely, when it's a written conclusion as in this context, otherwise judgement is fine.
13 hrs
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Thank you, Clive!
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4 hrs
Jelena Scucka
Native in Russian
Specializes in field
Elena
Native in: Russian (Variant: Standard-Russia) , Latvian
Works in: Latvian to English, English to Latvian, Russian to English, and 3 more.
assessing authority
a competent person or an expert who can evaluate or estimate the nature, ability, or quality of something
Note from asker:
| This can't be right. It's clearly a document containing rationales for making (or refusing) loans or loan repayments, and the question is what it should be called. |
5 hrs
Irina Shevchenko
Russian Federation
Russian Federation
Native in Russian
Works in field
Russian Federation
Interpreter, engineer, MS, O&G, geology
Native in: Russian
Works in: English to Russian, Russian to English
expert opinion
Just my assumption - it may be an earlier translation into Russian of what is called "Expert Opinion", a document composed after reviewing by experts of a documents pakage. The text looks as if earlier translated into Russian, not like originally written in Russian.
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Note added at 5 hrs (2015-08-24 19:50:39 GMT)
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For example, FEED documentation must be submitted for HSE experts review. The document they issue is called Expert Opinion.
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Note added at 5 hrs (2015-08-24 19:50:39 GMT)
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For example, FEED documentation must be submitted for HSE experts review. The document they issue is called Expert Opinion.
Note from asker:
| It's an original Russian document, but doubtless affected by similar anti-money-laundering legislation in the USA. |
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