Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
amérindien
English translation:
Native American or American Indian
Added to glossary by
Jeanne Zang
Jul 22, 2003 21:01
20 yrs ago
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French term
amérindien
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Les amérindiens vivaient sous le pouvoir du dieu de la foudre.
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Native American or American Indian
Native American is now considered more politically correct.
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I would agree with Jonathan\'s point that it also depends on the time frame.
As far as the stylistic level, in an ethnographic context, Amerindian is fine, but in an informal context - well, in my 54 years as a native speaker of American English, I have never heard anyone actually use the term \"Amerindian.\" But then, maybe that\'s why we had the misfortune to elect a cowboy as our president.!!
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I would agree with Jonathan\'s point that it also depends on the time frame.
As far as the stylistic level, in an ethnographic context, Amerindian is fine, but in an informal context - well, in my 54 years as a native speaker of American English, I have never heard anyone actually use the term \"Amerindian.\" But then, maybe that\'s why we had the misfortune to elect a cowboy as our president.!!
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Amerindian
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of or designating a major race of mankind, the original inhabitants of the western hemisphere south of the Arctic coastal regions, distinguished by a combination of biological characteristics, including straight, dark hair and light to dark-brown skin.
Gage Canadian Dictionary
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Native Americans: Américains natifs
American Indians: Indiens américains
North American Indians: Indiens nord-américains
First Nations: Premières nations
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Aboriginal peoples include the Métis people and the Inuit.
http://www.ainc-inac.gc.ca/pr/info/info101_e.pdf
Besides, \"aboriginal\" would be \"autochtone\" in French.
http://www.caslt.org/research/aboriginal.htm
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JeanneZ. If the time of reference is the long period before the showdown between \"the cowboys and Indians\", I wouldn´t even think of using anything else than \"Amerindian\", even if the geographic area is North America. I think this is the period the writer refers to: \"Les amérindiens vivaient sous le pouvoir du dieu de la foudre\". Besides, amérindien doesn´t \"have to be\" something else than Amerindian just because it is a KudoZ question.
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of or designating a major race of mankind, the original inhabitants of the western hemisphere south of the Arctic coastal regions, distinguished by a combination of biological characteristics, including straight, dark hair and light to dark-brown skin.
Gage Canadian Dictionary
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Native Americans: Américains natifs
American Indians: Indiens américains
North American Indians: Indiens nord-américains
First Nations: Premières nations
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Aboriginal peoples include the Métis people and the Inuit.
http://www.ainc-inac.gc.ca/pr/info/info101_e.pdf
Besides, \"aboriginal\" would be \"autochtone\" in French.
http://www.caslt.org/research/aboriginal.htm
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JeanneZ. If the time of reference is the long period before the showdown between \"the cowboys and Indians\", I wouldn´t even think of using anything else than \"Amerindian\", even if the geographic area is North America. I think this is the period the writer refers to: \"Les amérindiens vivaient sous le pouvoir du dieu de la foudre\". Besides, amérindien doesn´t \"have to be\" something else than Amerindian just because it is a KudoZ question.
Peer comment(s):
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Luis Orueta
: spot on. which would be the correct use for presently used North American indian
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Parrot
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agree |
sktrans
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writeaway
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Kvasir
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Jean-Claude Gouin
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Ethele Salem Sperling
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agree |
Sarah Ponting
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Christopher Crockett
: A perfectly good Amerenglish term.
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Jeanne Zang
: My final comment on this. It depends on the geographical area. According to Am. Heritage Dict., American Indian is usually reserved for Indians of US and Canada (except for Aleuts, Eskimos, and Inuits), for other parts of the Americas, Amerindian is used.
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Gage Canadian Dictionary talks about "the western hemisphere south of the Arctic coastal regions" in its entry for "Amerindian". See above.
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Jean-Luc Dumont
: Amerindians indigenous peoples of all Americas - especially if used in sociology or ethno -
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American aboriginals
or /(North) American aboriginals/ (American)Indians. Hope it helps. Good luck, Anonymous!
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Aborignal Americans is better, perhaps.
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Aborignal Americans is better, perhaps.
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Jeanne Zang
: Technically, I think you're right, but for some reason, at least in American English, we reserve the term "aboriginal" for Australia. (Am. Heritage Dict.)
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I agree with "Technically, I think you're right". To tell the truth so we do in our Russian (I mean "reserve "). My dictionary gives (American) Indians. Thanx for your interesting opinion, JeanneZ!
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Christopher Crockett
: Or : "Aborignal Americans" --but there is something of a negative connotation to the term (though there shouldn't be).
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Thank you & grand merci for your opinion & version, Christopher Crockett! (I consider any shortenings with something of a negative connotation - Amerindians, for instance so it seems OK to me ).
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north american aboriginal nations
pour être bien spécifique
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PaulaMac (X)
: spelling mistake: s/b North American Aboriginal
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Amerindians (for all indigenous people living in the Americas)
In sociology or ethonoghpic text Amerindians is as good as can be - before the arrival of Europeans
Native Americans and American Indians today used more frenquently to refer to US Indians
Amerindians is used frequently in Canada as well
Because of the similitude among Indians from North, Central and South America, there are those who prefer to call all of them Amerindians. Indians or Amerindians are thus the indigenous peoples of the Americas.
Les Indiens d'Amérique
Peuples indigènes des Amériques,
également appelés Amérindiens
Le terme d'Indien fut employé la première fois par Christophe Colomb qui, en abordant le continent et les îles d'Amérique, croyait à tort avoir atteint les Indes, en Asie. Le terme Amérindien désigne les peuples originaires d'Amérique du Nord, de Méso-Amérique (Mexique et Amérique centrale) et d'Amérique du Sud
Native Americans and American Indians today used more frenquently to refer to US Indians
Amerindians is used frequently in Canada as well
Because of the similitude among Indians from North, Central and South America, there are those who prefer to call all of them Amerindians. Indians or Amerindians are thus the indigenous peoples of the Americas.
Les Indiens d'Amérique
Peuples indigènes des Amériques,
également appelés Amérindiens
Le terme d'Indien fut employé la première fois par Christophe Colomb qui, en abordant le continent et les îles d'Amérique, croyait à tort avoir atteint les Indes, en Asie. Le terme Amérindien désigne les peuples originaires d'Amérique du Nord, de Méso-Amérique (Mexique et Amérique centrale) et d'Amérique du Sud
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