Glossary entry (derived from question below)
English term or phrase:
as a separate people
English answer:
as a unique, isolated people
Added to glossary by
Ana Juliá
Mar 29, 2005 13:43
19 yrs ago
English term
as a separate people
English
Art/Literary
Religion
19th century text
The predictions of judgments on cities and nations have come to pass, though at the time they were first spoken they seemed incredible. Egypt is the basest of kingdoms; Edom is a wilderness; Tyre is a rock for drying nets; Nineveh, that "exceeding great city," is laid waste, and become a desolation; Babylon is a dry land and a wilderness--her broad walls are utterly broken down; the Jews are scattered over the whole earth ***as a separate people***. In all these cases the Word of God foretold that it should be so. And so it was.
This is a text written by JC Ryle.
This is a text written by JC Ryle.
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Christopher Crockett
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M.A., Ph.D. Historian/Art Historian
Native in: English 
Works in: French to English, English
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a unique, isolated people
The Jews are a unique people, unlike any other; and a seperate one, isolated from all others.
They may be "scattered" as well, but that's not what "seperate" means here.
(And it is "seperate", not "seperated".)
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Ummmmm.... best make that \"separate\", in all the above instances, guys.
Thanks, Amy, for the correction.
I *hate* it when that happens.
Especially when someone else sees it.
They may be "scattered" as well, but that's not what "seperate" means here.
(And it is "seperate", not "seperated".)
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Ummmmm.... best make that \"separate\", in all the above instances, guys.
Thanks, Amy, for the correction.
I *hate* it when that happens.
Especially when someone else sees it.
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French Foodie
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Thanks, Marla.
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Shane London
: Yes. This is how I understand it
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Thanks, Shane.
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mstkwasa
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Thanks, mstk.
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Elizabeth Rudin
: A "separate people", "singled out", as stated in 1 Kings 8:53: "For thou didst separate them from among all the people of the earth, to be thine inheritance, as thou spakest by the hand of Moses thy servant..."
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Well, there's Scripture for us. I don't recall ever having that kind of Authority behind one of my Kudoz answers before. Thanks, Elisabeth.
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MPGS
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Thanks, MPGS. }%-{|>
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Ian M-H (X)
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In good company. Thanks, Ian.
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awilliams
: "separate", not "seperate".//sorry to be such a bore!
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Ayyyyyee! I *hate* it when that happens. Well, at least I didn't make that insignificant mistake more than four times, twice when correcting someone else. Thanks, Amy. (I think)
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Johan Venter
: People being "inhabitants of a particular race religion or culture; citizens of a nation " in this case.
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Thanks, venter.
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Robert Donahue (X)
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Thanks, Robert.
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Can Altinbay
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Thanks, Can.
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Ken Cox
: One more voice in the chorus, and maybe the mnenomic I was taught in grade school will help you with the spelling: 'separate is a rat'.
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All singing in tune, apparently. My orthography will remain challenged despite your help, I'm afraid. Thanks anyway, Kenneth.
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Saleh Chowdhury, Ph.D.
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Thanks, Saleh.
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as a separated people
I also think that this is used in the sense of "scattered", in other words separated from each other. That's why I would use the phrase above
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Monika Rozwarzewska
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Dina Abdo
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Ian M-H (X)
: I don't see any reason here to suspect that "separated" was intended rather than "separate".
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Every people is a separate people as such, but each people can still be together and not scattered all over the world. They are not together anymore - a Jewish state does still up to date have problems with being accepted by all the rest of the world.
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Bin Zhang
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they have their own laws and customs, and are not obligated to follow the customs of other peoples
(note the use of the word "peoples" here, referring a nation.
The Jewish people have their laws and traditions and customs, and continue to adhere to them, whereever they may be. That doesn't mean that individual Jewish persons have the unlimited right to ignore the laws of the country in which they live or find themselves; quite to the contrary. There is the rule that "the law of the land is the law."
The Jewish people have their laws and traditions and customs, and continue to adhere to them, whereever they may be. That doesn't mean that individual Jewish persons have the unlimited right to ignore the laws of the country in which they live or find themselves; quite to the contrary. There is the rule that "the law of the land is the law."
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Mihaela Brooks
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chosen people (of God)/people of the book
no comment on context
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as a set apart people
I agree with Terence. Jew wer separated from each other, and scattered all over the world -- untill the establishment of modern Israel. They are so apart from each other that some of their original twelve tribes are lost.
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Christopher Crockett
: All true, but the text here does not say "a separated people", so we must follow the clear English meaning, rather than projecting something else onto it.
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