Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Mar 30, 2021 12:23
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French term
battage
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This is a term used in a list of stages in wool-making. It's a paragraph about a 'filature' that's now open to the public for guided tours. Here's the whole paragraph:
La visite guidée permet de découvrir ces machines et toutes les étapes en « age » de la fabrication (battage, ourdissage, foulonnage, cardage...).
If I had to guess, I'd say 'beating' but not too sure I know what that means here!
La visite guidée permet de découvrir ces machines et toutes les étapes en « age » de la fabrication (battage, ourdissage, foulonnage, cardage...).
If I had to guess, I'd say 'beating' but not too sure I know what that means here!
Proposed translations
(English)
| 3 | Picking |
Lucy Teasdale
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| 4 | batting |
Saeed Najmi
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| 3 +1 | beating |
Conor McAuley
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| 4 | threshing |
MassimoA
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References
| beetling |
polyglot45
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Change log
Apr 1, 2021 08:32: Lucy Teasdale Created KOG entry
Proposed translations
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Lucy Teasdale
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Accurate French to English translations.
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Picking
Opération qui continue l'ouvraison et le nettoyage des fibres, ensuite forme une nappe continue de fibres, laquelle est délivrée à la carde.
Example sentence:
The first step in carding is to feed the wool through a “picker” machine. The picker pulls apart the dense bales of wool. This process reintroduces air to the wool and begins to loosen any remaining vegetable matter. Picking wool also continues to mix
Note from asker:
| Thanks for this, Lucy. I confess I initially had my doubts, but the source is reliable, so I'll go with this. |
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Saeed Najmi
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batting
Batting is fantastic for quick layouts. The batting can be spread out to your desired shape and size, and layers can be built up to reach your desired thickness
Note from asker:
| Thanks for replying so quickly Saeed. Unfortunately, I can't access the link, but it seems to me that batting is a product rather than a process, isn't it? |
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Conor McAuley
France
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beating
https://www.cnrtl.fr/definition/academie9/battage
2 [...] Battage de la laine, du coton, pour les débarrasser de leurs impuretés.
Medieval methods:
https://www.thoughtco.com/manufacturing-cloth-from-wool-1788...
"***Beating***
After rinsing, the wools were set out in the sun on wooden slats to dry and were ***beaten***, or *"broken,"* with sticks. Willow branches were often used, and thus the process was called *"willeying"* in England, brisage de laines in France and wullebreken in Flanders. Beating the wool helped remove any remaining foreign matter, and it separated entangled or matted fibers."
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Note added at 53 mins (2021-03-30 13:16:39 GMT)
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Sometimes these things do translate more or less directly, always worth a quick internet search for the obvious term.
But do try to wait for more input from other site users, if you can, I'm not fully certain about my answer. The terms used may have changed over time.
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Note added at 1 hr (2021-03-30 13:25:19 GMT)
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I agree with your approach -- you'll need a general term, not a technical term.
2 [...] Battage de la laine, du coton, pour les débarrasser de leurs impuretés.
Medieval methods:
https://www.thoughtco.com/manufacturing-cloth-from-wool-1788...
"***Beating***
After rinsing, the wools were set out in the sun on wooden slats to dry and were ***beaten***, or *"broken,"* with sticks. Willow branches were often used, and thus the process was called *"willeying"* in England, brisage de laines in France and wullebreken in Flanders. Beating the wool helped remove any remaining foreign matter, and it separated entangled or matted fibers."
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Note added at 53 mins (2021-03-30 13:16:39 GMT)
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Sometimes these things do translate more or less directly, always worth a quick internet search for the obvious term.
But do try to wait for more input from other site users, if you can, I'm not fully certain about my answer. The terms used may have changed over time.
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Note added at 1 hr (2021-03-30 13:25:19 GMT)
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I agree with your approach -- you'll need a general term, not a technical term.
Note from asker:
| Thanks for the confirmation of my 'guess', Connor! |
| Yes, I think I did, but just wanted to be 100% sure. This is a travel guide, so I think a general term like this is more likely. (And a safer bet unless I'm certain of the translation.) |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Althea Draper
: https://www.btb.termiumplus.gc.ca/tpv2alpha/alpha-eng.html?l... burr beating - since this looks to be processes prior to weaving (and not fulling or waulking which is done after weaving).
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Thanks Althea!
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threshing
I believe we are talking about an agricultural machine, for which the most pertinent translation is threshing.
In the past, threshing was called beating because it was done by hand and not with machines.
In the past, threshing was called beating because it was done by hand and not with machines.
Note from asker:
| But not for wool, surely? |
Reference comments
39 mins
polyglot45
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Reference:
beetling
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fulling
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foulon_(moulin)
https://www.wipo.int/classifications/ipc/en/ITsupport/Versio...
https://www.wipo.int/classifications/ipc/en/ITsupport/Versio...
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foulon_(moulin)
https://www.wipo.int/classifications/ipc/en/ITsupport/Versio...
https://www.wipo.int/classifications/ipc/en/ITsupport/Versio...
Note from asker:
| Thanks for your reply and links Polyglot. When I googled 'beetling', it seems to be a term used in linen and cotton manufacture rather than for wool… |
Discussion
Key in " wool roving vs wool batting" in the search engine and you'll get the link ";www.fionaduthie.com". It is accessible this way.