Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Spanish term or phrase:
Vehículo de Turismo con Conductor
English translation:
Rental Vehicle with Driver
Added to glossary by
CRISTINA FERNANDEZ NEBREDA
Oct 1, 2020 10:10
3 yrs ago
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Spanish term
Vehículo de Turismo con Conductor
Spanish to English
Bus/Financial
Economics
Hola, en la traducción de la presentación de nuevos productos, se mencionan los VTC (Vehículo de Turismo con Conductor), y me gustaría encontrar el EQUIVALENTE EXACTO en inglés. También me gustaría saber si hay una sigla equivalente al VTC.
He visto opciones y traducciones varias, pero no sé si son completas o exactas.
"Chauffeur-driven cars","Chauffeur vehicles", "rideshare", ...?
¡Muchas gracias!
He visto opciones y traducciones varias, pero no sé si son completas o exactas.
"Chauffeur-driven cars","Chauffeur vehicles", "rideshare", ...?
¡Muchas gracias!
Proposed translations
(English)
| 3 +3 | Rental Vehicle with Driver |
Lisa McCarthy
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| 3 +6 | Private hire vehicle (PHV) |
Althea Draper
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| 3 +2 | Passenger Car with Driver |
Marouchka Heijnen
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| 2 +1 | vehicle for hire |
Taña Dalglish
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Proposed translations
+3
43 mins
Lisa McCarthy
Spain
Spain
Native in English
Works in field
Spain
Especialista de marketing
Native in: English 
Works in: Spanish to English, Catalan to English
Related KudoZ points
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36
Selected
Rental Vehicle with Driver
I don't think there's an acronym for it.
Terms & Conditions of Use - HOOP Carpoolhoopcarpool.com › terms-conditions-of-use
Hoop reserves the right to suspend your Account if you use a rental vehicle with driver or other commercial vehicle, taxi or company vehicle in order to generate ...
Rent bus Geneva – Car Rental driver Geneva Rental bus ...rentcarbus.com › rent-bus-geneva
Cars Limousine minibuses Limousine buses. Rental vehicle with driver vs chauffeur. For the band, see The Limousines. For the former administrative region of ...
Uber joins Cabiy and offers taxi service in Madrid – Archydewww.archyde.com › uber-joins-cabiy-and-offers-taxi-s...
Nov 22, 2019 - ... provides a rental vehicle with driver (VTC). The US firm integrates the taxi into its application four months after Cabify already did it last July.
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https://n332.es/2018/09/04/diesel-to-be-taxed-in-2019/
Terms & Conditions of Use - HOOP Carpoolhoopcarpool.com › terms-conditions-of-use
Hoop reserves the right to suspend your Account if you use a rental vehicle with driver or other commercial vehicle, taxi or company vehicle in order to generate ...
Rent bus Geneva – Car Rental driver Geneva Rental bus ...rentcarbus.com › rent-bus-geneva
Cars Limousine minibuses Limousine buses. Rental vehicle with driver vs chauffeur. For the band, see The Limousines. For the former administrative region of ...
Uber joins Cabiy and offers taxi service in Madrid – Archydewww.archyde.com › uber-joins-cabiy-and-offers-taxi-s...
Nov 22, 2019 - ... provides a rental vehicle with driver (VTC). The US firm integrates the taxi into its application four months after Cabify already did it last July.
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https://n332.es/2018/09/04/diesel-to-be-taxed-in-2019/
Peer comment(s):
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Toni Castano
: A "general" perfectly valid translation for a query with an unspecified target country. I think it´s important to mention "with driver" to avoid possible misunderstandings.
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Thanks, Toni :-)
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Helena Chavarria
: I lost my internet connection when I was writing. I wanted to say that this is what I used a couple of weeks ago when I translated an 'atestado'. I spent quite a bit of time researching the answer and this is what I chose.
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Thanks, Helena :-)
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Yvonne Gallagher
1 day 12 hrs
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Thanks, Yvonne:-)
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "In my opinion, this is the best answer for this case, where we didn't have more context. Many thanks, Lisa!!"
+2
27 mins
Marouchka Heijnen
Spain
Spain
Native in English
Works in field
Spain
Financial and Technical translation
Native in: Dutch (Variant: Netherlands) , English (Variants: UK, US) 
Works in: Dutch to English, Spanish to English, English to Spanish, and 6 more.
Passenger Car with Driver
Posiblemente es demasiado general pero entiendo que ofrecen un vehículo de turismo sin especificar con un conductor.
Note from asker:
| Thanks, Marouchka for your help. I also liked your reply for this case, but couldn't share points, as I've been told. Have a great week! |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Antonio Tomás Lessa do Amaral
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Thank you, Antonio
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philgoddard
: Assuming we don't get the context, I think this literal translation is best.
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Thank you, Phil!
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36 mins
Althea Draper
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
Native in English
United Kingdom
Freelance Medical Translator, MA (Hons)
Native in: English (Variants: British, Scottish)
Works in: French to English, Spanish to English, English
Private hire vehicle (PHV)
From what I can glean, the VTC license covers services such as Uber and chauffeur driven cars.
https://www.choferdelujo.com/private-chauffeur-spain/
In the UK, there is a classification of PHV (private hire vehicles) which both Uber type services and chauffeur services come under.
http://toth.dacorum.gov.uk/docs/default-source/licensing-doc...
This sets out the difference between taxis and PHVs
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/...
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NB this is UK only - it may be different for other English speaking countries.
https://www.choferdelujo.com/private-chauffeur-spain/
In the UK, there is a classification of PHV (private hire vehicles) which both Uber type services and chauffeur services come under.
http://toth.dacorum.gov.uk/docs/default-source/licensing-doc...
This sets out the difference between taxis and PHVs
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/...
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NB this is UK only - it may be different for other English speaking countries.
Reference:
Note from asker:
| Wow, Althea, a very detailed reply. Thank-you! However, in this case, since I was not sure it was for the UK, I had to choose a more general term. Best from Madrid! |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
patinba
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Thanks patinba
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EirTranslations
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Thanks EirTranslations
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eski
: Sounds right to me. :)
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Thanks eski
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neilmac
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Thanks neilmac
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philgoddard
: I don't think this will be clearly understood by anyone outside the UK. It could be mistaken for a rental car, for example.
6 hrs
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That's why (as you can see above) I mentioned that this applied to the UK only. VTC covers Uber type services and chauffeur services which is the direct equivalent of PHV in the UK. The literal translations make no sense at all in the UK.
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Toni Castano
: This is absolutely fine for the UK and you explicitly pointed out your suggestion is only targetting the UK readership. There´s no possible misunderstanding with your rendering.
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Thanks Toni
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Antonella Perazzoni
1 day 3 hrs
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Thanks Antonella
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32 mins
Taña Dalglish
Jamaica
Jamaica
Native in English
Jamaica
Translating the Ideas Behind the Words
Native in: English (Variant: British)
Works in: Spanish to English, English to Spanish, French to English, and 2 more.
Related KudoZ points
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28
vehicle for hire
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_for_hire
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehículo_de_transporte_con_con...
France: Nationwide vehicle-for-hire drivers' strike May 28www.garda.com › crisis24 › news-alerts › france-nation...
May 27, 2019 - Vehicle-for-hire (VTC) drivers plan nationwide strike May 28; traffic disruptions expected.
Uber in Spain: The political fallout from the taxi strikes in Spain ...english.elpais.com › Economy And Business › News
Jan 28, 2019 - ... competition, which takes the shape of ride-hailing companies that use VTC (vehicle for hire) licenses to operate, such as Uber and Cabify. https://english.elpais.com/elpais/2019/01/28/inenglish/15486...
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https://publicgoods.eu/recent-twists-uber-saga-spanish-and-f...
Since then, Spanish taxi drivers has been complain that rival drivers from ride-hailing apps – such as Uber or Cabify, also known as VTCs (Tourism Vehicles with Chauffeur) – compete unfairly since they do not face the same regulations and costs. The drivers Madrid started an indefinite strike on Monday to protest competition from VTCs, following their colleagues in Barcelona who began striking on Friday.
Change Article Language - IKCESTikcest.org › article-106335-
... the vehicle for hire (VTCs) sector that will require ride-hailing companies such ... Ride-hailing companies Uber and Cabify have previously said they will pull ... http://ikcest.org/article-106335-.htm
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@ Crisdelux: Can't say I agree with your comment re "driver" (must include the term). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_for_hire (the text states: A vehicle for hire is a vehicle providing private transport or shared transport for a fee, in which passengers are generally free to choose their points or approximate points of origin and destination, unlike public transport, ..", e.g. Uber, etc., etc.)
However, you've been given options, e.g. that may satisfy UK requirements, but IMO, a "vehicle for hire" is just that, and to state that the driver is included is almost absurd and redundant. Answer to another query you outlined: No, you cannot share points! It is not an option provided by ProZ!
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehículo_de_transporte_con_con...
France: Nationwide vehicle-for-hire drivers' strike May 28www.garda.com › crisis24 › news-alerts › france-nation...
May 27, 2019 - Vehicle-for-hire (VTC) drivers plan nationwide strike May 28; traffic disruptions expected.
Uber in Spain: The political fallout from the taxi strikes in Spain ...english.elpais.com › Economy And Business › News
Jan 28, 2019 - ... competition, which takes the shape of ride-hailing companies that use VTC (vehicle for hire) licenses to operate, such as Uber and Cabify. https://english.elpais.com/elpais/2019/01/28/inenglish/15486...
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https://publicgoods.eu/recent-twists-uber-saga-spanish-and-f...
Since then, Spanish taxi drivers has been complain that rival drivers from ride-hailing apps – such as Uber or Cabify, also known as VTCs (Tourism Vehicles with Chauffeur) – compete unfairly since they do not face the same regulations and costs. The drivers Madrid started an indefinite strike on Monday to protest competition from VTCs, following their colleagues in Barcelona who began striking on Friday.
Change Article Language - IKCESTikcest.org › article-106335-
... the vehicle for hire (VTCs) sector that will require ride-hailing companies such ... Ride-hailing companies Uber and Cabify have previously said they will pull ... http://ikcest.org/article-106335-.htm
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@ Crisdelux: Can't say I agree with your comment re "driver" (must include the term). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_for_hire (the text states: A vehicle for hire is a vehicle providing private transport or shared transport for a fee, in which passengers are generally free to choose their points or approximate points of origin and destination, unlike public transport, ..", e.g. Uber, etc., etc.)
However, you've been given options, e.g. that may satisfy UK requirements, but IMO, a "vehicle for hire" is just that, and to state that the driver is included is almost absurd and redundant. Answer to another query you outlined: No, you cannot share points! It is not an option provided by ProZ!
Note from asker:
| Hi Taña. In this case this reply remains unclear, since it does not mention the DRIVER. Many thanks for your help and references, though! :) |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
eski
: Good references! All good, thanks. U2 :)
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Thanks Eski. Hope all is good and staying very safe? Very concerned (we are tiny), but all good personally.
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Reference comments
10 hrs
Toni Castano
Spain
Spain
Native in Spanish
Spain
PER ASPERA AD ASTRA
Native in: Spanish
Works in: German to Spanish, Spanish to German, English to Spanish, and 5 more.
Related KudoZ points
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4
Reference:
An interesting reference (only valid for the EU)
https://ec.europa.eu/transport/sites/transport/files/2016-09...
Study on passenger transport by taxi, hire car with driver and ridesharing in the EU
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Hire car with driver [NACE H 49.3.2] is a separate class of “for hire service” that covers services that operates based on pre-negotiated fares and pre-arranged reservations. In some Member States, they are limited in the type of service they can operate (e.g. minimum length of trip in distance or duration) and in others not. Depending on the way they are regulated, they can compete directly, partially or not with taxis. In some Member States, the hire car with driver service overlaps with the limousine service, which is, in general, considered a small high-end luxury segment of chauffeured vehicles for special occasions, such as ceremonies. This type of service can have different denomination depending on the country, such as private hire vehicle (PHV in the UK), véhicule de transport avec chauffeur (VTC in France) or service de location de voitures avec chauffeur (SLC in Belgium).
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Ha sido un placer, Crisdelux. Me alegra haber podido contribuir a encontrar una solución.
Study on passenger transport by taxi, hire car with driver and ridesharing in the EU
(...)
Hire car with driver [NACE H 49.3.2] is a separate class of “for hire service” that covers services that operates based on pre-negotiated fares and pre-arranged reservations. In some Member States, they are limited in the type of service they can operate (e.g. minimum length of trip in distance or duration) and in others not. Depending on the way they are regulated, they can compete directly, partially or not with taxis. In some Member States, the hire car with driver service overlaps with the limousine service, which is, in general, considered a small high-end luxury segment of chauffeured vehicles for special occasions, such as ceremonies. This type of service can have different denomination depending on the country, such as private hire vehicle (PHV in the UK), véhicule de transport avec chauffeur (VTC in France) or service de location de voitures avec chauffeur (SLC in Belgium).
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Ha sido un placer, Crisdelux. Me alegra haber podido contribuir a encontrar una solución.
Note from asker:
| Muchas gracias, Toni! Todo aporta, y está claro que hay otras opciones. He elegido la que me ha parecido mejor en este caso. Cuídate! :) |
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