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English translation: wire mask

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Portuguese term or phrase:máscara de arame
English translation:wire mask
Entered by: rhandler

17:05 Oct 19, 2006
Portuguese to English translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - Anthropology
Portuguese term or phrase: máscara de arame
This is an account of an attack on two farm labourers in 1912 in the Azores by a group of vigilantes in disguise - "dois com máscaras de arame". Now, the term is used nowadays for the mask worn in the sport of fencing and a beekeeper's veil, but the context is the rural Azores at the beginning of the last century. Can anyone suggest a convincing translation?
lexical
Spain
Local time: 11:07
wire mask
Explanation:
Wire masks have been used for a long time. Look at this example, on the Carnival of Venice:

7kty210 txt
Then toward spring I should like to go to Florence and Venice, and visit the ... Everybody wore or carried a wire mask as protection against this white, ...
www.gutenberg.org/dirs/etext05/7kty210.txt

Also, baseball players (catchers) wear wire masks, and have done this much before 1912. Look at this example:

eReader.com: Excerpt from My TeamBack in the early part of the last century , catchers didn ' t have any ignorance tools except a crude wire mask . They squatted back behind the plate with ...
www.ereader.com/.../book/excerpt/22448?book=My_Team:_Choosi...

Bassmedia - css, html, aplikacje internetowe
(Baseball) The catcher's wire mask. [1913 Webster] ... called because an English family named Gage imported the greengage from France, in the last century. ...
www.bassmedia.art.pl/rage
Selected response from:

rhandler
Local time: 06:07
Grading comment
I thought the Venice Carnival example was quite interesting, and at least contemporary with my text. I don't think we'll ever get to the bottom of this, and the author has been dead this last 80 years.
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Summary of answers provided
4 +2wire mask
rhandler
3gauze veil masks
muitoprazer (X)
3 -1barbed wire mask
Susy Ordaz


Discussion entries: 1





  

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33 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
gauze veil masks


Explanation:
http://mrstrellis.cream.org/?m=20051014 except here the gauze referred to is metallic.

muitoprazer (X)
Local time: 10:07
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
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38 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
wire mask


Explanation:
Wire masks have been used for a long time. Look at this example, on the Carnival of Venice:

7kty210 txt
Then toward spring I should like to go to Florence and Venice, and visit the ... Everybody wore or carried a wire mask as protection against this white, ...
www.gutenberg.org/dirs/etext05/7kty210.txt

Also, baseball players (catchers) wear wire masks, and have done this much before 1912. Look at this example:

eReader.com: Excerpt from My TeamBack in the early part of the last century , catchers didn ' t have any ignorance tools except a crude wire mask . They squatted back behind the plate with ...
www.ereader.com/.../book/excerpt/22448?book=My_Team:_Choosi...

Bassmedia - css, html, aplikacje internetowe
(Baseball) The catcher's wire mask. [1913 Webster] ... called because an English family named Gage imported the greengage from France, in the last century. ...
www.bassmedia.art.pl/rage


rhandler
Local time: 06:07
Native speaker of: Portuguese
PRO pts in category: 3
Grading comment
I thought the Venice Carnival example was quite interesting, and at least contemporary with my text. I don't think we'll ever get to the bottom of this, and the author has been dead this last 80 years.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Susy Ordaz: Sounds nice Ralph.
9 mins
  -> Thank you, Suzy.
agree  Cristiane Gomes
5 hrs
  -> Obrigado, Cristiane.
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27 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): -1
barbed wire mask


Explanation:
barbed wire mask

Could it be this?

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Note added at 58 mins (2006-10-19 18:03:43 GMT)
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Your're right, my mistake.

Susy Ordaz
Local time: 10:07
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in PortuguesePortuguese
Notes to answerer
Asker: Nice of you to contribute, Susy, as always, but barbed wire was invented in Illinois in 1874 and I doubt it was in use in the Azores in 1912. Not sure how it would disguise you either. lexical


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  muitoprazer (X): barbed wire is a deterrent barring entry to undesirable people/ animals,and unlikely to be worn on face as it would rip flesh.
8 mins
  -> Well I thought that was the whole idea...the phrase refers to an attack suffered by two farm labourers. But maybe I'm wrong.
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