how to import a 2 column Word table as a bilingual document for revision/updates? Thread poster: nordiste
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nordiste 
France
Local time: 07:28
English to French
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The project is to update a book,more specifically captions in an illustrated book. I did not translate the book so I have no TM for it.
I got a Word file with a succession of pictures (2 or 3) and then 2-column table GE>FR with the captions for the pictures, one caption per cell. There are various states:
- caption already translated, source and target ok
- caption already translated but some changes in the source, I have to adapt the target accordingly. The changes are... See more The project is to update a book,more specifically captions in an illustrated book. I did not translate the book so I have no TM for it.
I got a Word file with a succession of pictures (2 or 3) and then 2-column table GE>FR with the captions for the pictures, one caption per cell. There are various states:
- caption already translated, source and target ok
- caption already translated but some changes in the source, I have to adapt the target accordingly. The changes are highlighted.
- new caption (new picture), I have to translate.
I would like to import the bilingual text to create a TM and then update/translate the document normally.
How can I do it the best way ?
The general question is : how to import a word table as a bilingual file?
Thanks for all ideas. ▲ Collapse
| | | | Mikhail Popov
Montenegro
Local time: 07:28
English to Russian
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| Convert to Excel | Jul 10, 2018 |
Copy it to Excel, then save as CSV with 2 columns inside. Then import into Translation memory
| | | | | The workhorse method | Jul 10, 2018 |
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Starting from a bilingual Word table in 2 columns, left source, right target:
- convert the table to text in Word (tabulation for column separation, New line (Enter) for lines separation
- in Word, bulk-replace tab and Enter with the associated 'old-Trados' tags (the bits that used to be hidden text in purple, with curly brackets, number and lower than/higher than symbols)
- fix any faulty/missing tags (usually beginning and end)
You now have a bilingual fi... See more *
Starting from a bilingual Word table in 2 columns, left source, right target:
- convert the table to text in Word (tabulation for column separation, New line (Enter) for lines separation
- in Word, bulk-replace tab and Enter with the associated 'old-Trados' tags (the bits that used to be hidden text in purple, with curly brackets, number and lower than/higher than symbols)
- fix any faulty/missing tags (usually beginning and end)
You now have a bilingual file in 'old-Trados' format.
Save it as a DOC file (not docx).
Import it to MemoQ. MemoQ should detect a bilingual Trados .doc file and select the filter accordingly.
You should get source and target in MemoQ.
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To create a TM out of a 2-column Word file, it's likely only a matter of converting the Word file into csv. This format can be made a TM directly in MemoQ.
Cleaner, more elegant and ethereal ways certainly exist.
Good luck,
Philippe ▲ Collapse
| | | | nordiste
France
Local time: 07:28
English to French
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TOPIC STARTER | old Trados tags? | Jul 10, 2018 |
Philippe Etienne wrote:
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- in Word, bulk-replace tab and Enter with the associated 'old-Trados' tags (the bits that used to be hidden text in purple, with curly brackets, number and lower than/higher than symbols)
- fix any faulty/missing tags (usually beginning and end)
You now have a bilingual file in 'old-Trados' format.
Philippe
Thanks Philippe.
But what are exactly old Trados tags? I can see what you mean but how can I create them?
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| Just type them | Jul 10, 2018 |
nordiste wrote:
But what are exactly old Trados tags? I can see what you mean but how can I create them?
use zero for convenience, whatever font in whatever colour with whatever attributes. It doesn't matter at all.
Hope it helps,
Philippe
| | | | | More screenshots | Jul 10, 2018 |
Search-replace may look like this:
And then the needful needs doing for the beginning and the end of the doc.
Of course, if your table cells contain whole paragraphs, a whole paragraph will be a single TU (not one TU per "sentence")
I used to use this trick quite often, now not so much.
Philippe
| | | | Jorge Payan
Colombia
Local time: 00:28
Member (2002)
German to Spanish
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| I unearthed something for your purposes | Jul 10, 2018 |
Looking into my old treasures chest, I found a nice (and free) macro collection by Arkady Vysotsky, which, among other convenient functions, allows the following format conversions:
Trados-like segmented text to Word table
Word table to Trados-like segmented text
Excel workbook to Trados-like segmented text
Wordfast TM to Trados-like segmented text
Trados TXT export to Word table
STAR Transit project to Trados-like segmented text and back <... See more Looking into my old treasures chest, I found a nice (and free) macro collection by Arkady Vysotsky, which, among other convenient functions, allows the following format conversions:
Trados-like segmented text to Word table
Word table to Trados-like segmented text
Excel workbook to Trados-like segmented text
Wordfast TM to Trados-like segmented text
Trados TXT export to Word table
STAR Transit project to Trados-like segmented text and back
TTX (TagEditor) file to Trados-like segmented text and back
The "Trados-like segmented text" mentioned above is the old (pre-Studio) rtf bilingual format TRADOS used until version 2007. MemoQ is able to import/export it as you may see in:
https://www.memoq.com/en/languages-and-file-formats
Please write me in private and I would gladly supply you the link to downloading it.
Saludos ▲ Collapse
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