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Avvocati Cassazionisti

English translation: Barristers of the Supreme Court

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Italian term or phrase:Avvocati Cassazionisti
English translation:Barristers of the Supreme Court
Entered by: ARS54

23:06 Jan 24, 2009
Italian to English translations [PRO]
Law/Patents - Law (general)
Italian term or phrase: Avvocati Cassazionisti
"iscritto all’Albo Speciale degli **Avvocati Cassazionisti**
This is a one of the many, many CVs from a law firm that are filling my spare time this weekend (!) and it's 11:30 pm and I just cannot find an appropriate way to say this one... I need IV caffeine, stat! I will most likely disregard the Albo Speciale bit (unless you propose a nifty way of saying it) and go straight to the Cassazionista part. Essentially, attorneys in Italy cannot plead before the Supreme Ct before having qualified to do so, essentially by means of sticking things out and practicing for a certain (fairly high) number of years... But how do we say this in English? Is there a term, perhaps in the UK, because w/ regard to US English I cannot get any further than the extremely banal "qualified to plead before the Supreme Court" or (even worse) "Supreme Court Attorney" (which sounds more like a television show). This is for an Italian law firm with foreign clients mostly from the US but with many attorney relations worldwide, so hints from all over will be gladly accpeted! :)
TIA
wordgirl
Italy
Barristers of the Supreme Court
Explanation:
http://www.lexisnexis.com

http://www.linkedin.com

http://www.cccs.law.unimelb.edu

http://www.essexcourt.net

"... Admitted as a Barrister of the Supreme Court of Queensland..."

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Note added at 1 giorno17 min (2009-01-25 23:24:22 GMT)
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N.B.: "...named "Albo degli avvocati cassazionisti". To be admitted in this Albo, the [...] regards the Supreme Court (Corte di Cassazione): in this case the [...] (i.e. other legal decisions and precedents) the barristers referred to at the [...]

http://www.ec.europa.eu"

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Note added at 3 giorni18 ore (2009-01-28 17:55:23 GMT)
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Grazie a te, WG, molto carino da parte tua!

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Note added at 4 giorni (2009-01-29 08:40:20 GMT) Post-grading
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...Non puoi capire quanto apprezzi il tuo comportamento, W.G., veramente raro... Lieta di esserti stata utile; ricambio col cuore, ringrazio tutti i colleghi (BL in particolare) e... buon lavoro!!
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ARS54
Italy
Local time: 08:53
Grading comment
Thanks very much, I would say that this is the best "fit" for these particular (v. formal) docs. All the best to you and to all who helped me out on this one!! :)
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Summary of answers provided
5 +1Barristers of the Supreme Court
ARS54
5attorney at the Court of Cassation/attorney admitted to practice/pleading at the bar of the (court o
Elizabeth Hill Barsanti (X)
4 +1(UK) Advocates with rights of audience in the Highest Court of Appeal
Adrian MM. (X)
3 +1cassation barristers
Jochen König
4Fully qualified lawyer
James (Jim) Davis


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19 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
cassation barristers


Explanation:
That's all that comes to my mind. The problem here is that afaik there are no specific "cassation" courts in anglosaxon law. Supreme courts would take that role.

Jochen König
Germany
Local time: 08:53
Native speaker of: German
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks v. much for answering! WG


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Peter Cox: barristers
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Fully qualified lawyer


Explanation:
It means that they have the experience and qualifications to defend cases in all "istanze" or levels of appeal right up to the highest court of cassation. The term I have given should work in any country.

James (Jim) Davis
Seychelles
Local time: 11:53
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Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 1663
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks v. much for answering! WG

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attorney at the Court of Cassation/attorney admitted to practice/pleading at the bar of the (court o


Explanation:
http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Court-of-Cassation-...
Bar
The attorneys (avocats), while not employees of the Court and not technically part of it, play an important role in the correct application of justice. A barrister (advocate in Scotland and the Channel Islands, barrister-at-law in Ireland and elsewhere) is a lawyer found in some Common law jurisdictions who principally, but not exclusively, represents litigants as their advocate before the courts of that jurisdiction. ...


Elizabeth Hill Barsanti (X)
Italy
Local time: 08:53
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in ItalianItalian
PRO pts in category: 48
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks v. much for answering! WG

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11 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
(UK) Advocates with rights of audience in the Highest Court of Appeal


Explanation:
In the UK legal system, rights of audience refer to the right to appear in certain levels of court.

In Scotland, the Highest Court is the Court of Session for crim. cases and in E&W the House of Lords inc. for highest Scottish civil appeals.

Barristers (NB in Scotland a.ka. Advocates) as well as Solicitor-*Advocates* - as which, coincidentally, Barristers may requalify for reasons that need not be canvassed here - and Legal Executive-*Advocates* now have 'rights of audience' in the Higher Courts e.g. (crim) Crown Court, High Court, Court of Appeal and House of Lords.



Example sentence(s):
  • 1.1 Admission as a solicitor carries automatic rights of audience, within the ... No automatic rights. No rights. House of Lords. Rights before the Appeal ...

    Reference: http://www.sra.org.uk/securedownload/file/107
Adrian MM. (X)
Local time: 08:53
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 769
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks v. much for answering! WG


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  blattanzi
2 days 1 hr
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19 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +1
Barristers of the Supreme Court


Explanation:
http://www.lexisnexis.com

http://www.linkedin.com

http://www.cccs.law.unimelb.edu

http://www.essexcourt.net

"... Admitted as a Barrister of the Supreme Court of Queensland..."

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Note added at 1 giorno17 min (2009-01-25 23:24:22 GMT)
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N.B.: "...named "Albo degli avvocati cassazionisti". To be admitted in this Albo, the [...] regards the Supreme Court (Corte di Cassazione): in this case the [...] (i.e. other legal decisions and precedents) the barristers referred to at the [...]

http://www.ec.europa.eu"

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Note added at 3 giorni18 ore (2009-01-28 17:55:23 GMT)
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Grazie a te, WG, molto carino da parte tua!

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Note added at 4 giorni (2009-01-29 08:40:20 GMT) Post-grading
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...Non puoi capire quanto apprezzi il tuo comportamento, W.G., veramente raro... Lieta di esserti stata utile; ricambio col cuore, ringrazio tutti i colleghi (BL in particolare) e... buon lavoro!!

Example sentence(s):
  • http://www.legoechambers.com.au
  • http://www.womenaustralia.info/biogs/AWE2717b.htm

    Reference: http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/journals/UTSLRev/2000/16.html
    Reference: http://www.londonmet.ac.uk
ARS54
Italy
Local time: 08:53
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in ItalianItalian
PRO pts in category: 16
Grading comment
Thanks very much, I would say that this is the best "fit" for these particular (v. formal) docs. All the best to you and to all who helped me out on this one!! :)
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks v. much for answering! WG


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  blattanzi: preciso
1 day 17 hrs
  -> Grazie, cara...
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